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Popularised by Hollywood and the wedding of the crown princess, the patriarchal ‘handover’ is catching on. Now Lutherans want to stop it

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[–] yannic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a subtle difference between backwards and slow. Slow moves forwards, but... slowly. It turns out "giving away the bride" was introduced by protestants, I'm guessing recognizing pagan practice at the time as a result of no longer treating matrimony as a sacrament.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By “backwards”, I had in mind church officials surrounded by gold and priceless artwork while there is still poverty in the world, and various child abuse scandals. Some of them practice the exact opposite of what they preach. That seems backwards to me.

[–] yannic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

If you mean humanity is filled with hypocrites, then definitely. I'm a hypocrite, too. Not that kind, but the "I want to raise my child to be at least not worse than I am" kind. Yes, the scandals are shameful. That's why they're called scandals, and it's absolutely idiotic that the bishops (the administrative heads of particular churches) repeatedly thought covering things up was the right choice. Administrative ability should be a job requirement. Government transparency is a new thing, though, just in the past couple of generations, and business financial transparency more recently, so I imagine ecclestiastic administrative transparency will get will become an expectation in a few more. Give it 100 years or so, at least. Like I said: Slow.

As for the priceless artwork, would you rather the grubby little hands of the public and researchers have access to it, or keep it in a private collection? I suppose both have their pro's and con's.