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[–] pipows 6 points 2 months ago (23 children)

Libertarian is not right-wing (at least as what right-wing and libertarian means here, maybe it is not the same in the US?)

The right is conservative. It is religion based, against the liberation of drugs, usually not concerned with LGBT or women rights. Libertarianism is none of this, since it most concerned with individual freedom

[–] LukeZaz@beehaw.org 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I don't know if libertarianism courts a different audience in Brazil, but in the U.S. it has a very rabidly right-wing audience who effectively want to tear down as much government as possible, and who view "your freedom ends at my face" as an insult. It's the ideology of an extraordinarily unregulated market – a true "free market" – which is a monopolistic and wildly unethical disaster waiting to happen.

Anarcho-capitalism, which your username references, is all of that, only more. So you might understand why effectively everyone here is going to treat that with extreme suspicion.

[–] pipows 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

who effectively want to tear down as much government as possible, [...]. It's the ideology of an extraordinarily unregulated market – a true "free market"

I agree with that.

which is a monopolistic and wildly unethical disaster waiting to happen.

I obviously don't agree with that. Monopolies depend on the government to exist. I will not elaborate further because I'm not feeling like arguing with strangers on the internet today

who view "your freedom ends at my face" as an insult

I really don't know what that means

[–] LukeZaz@beehaw.org 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Monopolies depend on the government to exist.

I very much disagree but respect a desire to not get into a debate, so I'll leave it there.

I really don’t know what that means

"Your freedom ends at my face" is a saying used often here to contend with right-wing group's insistence on "freedom," often the kind that involves harming others; e.g. free speech absolutism and the "freedom" to spout neo-Nazi rhetoric that advocates for the murder of minorities, or the "freedom" to not get vaccinated and thus worsen a pandemic. A more full version might be "Your freedom to throw a punch ends where my face begins." The idea is that it is fair to restrict a freedom if it supports the freedom of others — you might not trust governments to determine where those lines lie, and that's fair, but that's a separate issue.

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