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Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; 'The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,' says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages' location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (29 children)

absolutely love how tankies in here are somehow turning this around to be Israels fault

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (13 children)

Taking Israel's side is like taking Russia's side.

Both are objectively doing the same thing.

That is the Tankie position. End justifies the means. Fascism is justified.

It's you.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (10 children)

awful take

gaslighting a Nation into thinking they're at fault for you killing their people is fucking awful

Do you also think that the US is responsible for 9/11?

Or Russia is at fault for the Terror Attack on the Opera recently?

No, trying to twist the truth so that the anti-western side is the good one, trying to defend them, that is the real tankie stance

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The US knew that a major attack was being planned by bin laden months before 9/11. Bush, purposefully or ignorantly, ignored or minimized these warnings directly leading to the attack.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

There's also the aspect of it where the US funded and trained bin Laden prior to the attack because he was useful to us in the 80's.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

And the US warned Russia of the Moscow Attack

Does that mean that the US/Russia is responsible for the Terror attack against them?

Please don't talk around it. "I think that yes/no [because ...]"

Because I think that Terror Attacks are always the fault of the Terrorists killing people

The same way I think that incidents of rape are always the fault of the rapist and never the victim.

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Terrorism is politics by other means.

If you deny a people redress of grievances, say by refusing to participate in the international criminal court, you can't be surprised when desperate people act out of desperation.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

I'm not saying that it's right, but it certainly didn't justify the 20 years we spent playing in the desert, nor the genocide Israel is commiting on the Palestinians now.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 0 points 3 months ago

If you have explicit knowledge that can save peoples lives and you choose not to act on it then yes you're directly responsible for that loss of life.

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