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Which protocol or open standard do you like or wish was more popular? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by cyclohexane@lemmy.ml to c/programming@programming.dev

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There are a couple I have in mind. Like many techies, I am a huge fan of RSS for content distribution and XMPP for federated communication.

The really niche one I like is S-expressions as a data format and configuration in place of json, yaml, toml, etc.

I am a big fan of Plaintext formats, although I wish markdown had a few more features like tables.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

About s-expressions, what i read about it: https://web.archive.org/web/20120206034439/https://shinkirou.org/blog/2010/06/s-expressions-the-fat-free-alternative-to-json/

Seems rather niche, for non-key-value-pair data structures (aren't no-sql databases good for that?), considering that lightweight markup fulfills that role for readable document source.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

The appeal for json and yaml is readability, and partially ease of parsing. I say s-expressions win over both in both aspects.

Can you please expand on your references to no-sql and your reference to "lightweight markup"? I don't quite understand what you meant there.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

S-expressions are basically directly writing the AST a compiler would normally generate. They can be extremely flexible. M-expressions were supposed to be programming part of Lisp, and S-expressions the data part. Lisp programmers noticed that code is just another kind of data to be manipulated and then only used S-expressions.

Logo is arguably a Lisp with M-expressions. But whatever niche Logo had is taken by Python now.