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After Republican vice presidential pick J.D. Vance went viral last week for being extraordinarily awkward at a donut shop in Georgia, Democrat Tim Walz had to poke fun at him during a snack stop in Pennsylvania. 

Pursuing sweets like whoopie pies and donuts at Cherry Hill Orchards in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Walz slid in a joke  while speaking to voters. 

“Look at me, I have no problem picking out donuts.”

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 76 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Wait, so you don't order donuts by first stating your name, then asking every employee in the store who makes eye contact "How long have you worked here"?

[–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Thanks to you I finally decided to watch the video of him donut shopping and it didn't seem that bad. Just some out of touch rich guy struggling to make small talk.

But nowhere near the level of couch-fucking weird everyone's been claiming.

So yeah I guess it would be better if he were a total sociopath and could more convincingly fake excitement during small talk?

The part that made the video bad wasn't his behavior, it was how clearly the staff knew it was a meaningless publicity stunt. The staff has enough braincells to know that this guy's policies, if elected, would do nothing to make their lives better, and that they are just pawns to make him look like he appeals to common folk. This is not something specific to this candidate, but his entire party.

They should've just declined him as a customer, or insisted that no recording at all could be done on their property. That would have sent a clearer message to him, unless you think the existence of this video helps the Kamala campaign because they will overreact to it and add it to the "he's weird" pile. I agree he's probably that bad kind of weird (I believe all Republicans are either so rich and selfish it is indistinguishable from being straight up evil, are racist, or being blackmailed) , but I don't see that being demonstrated in the video.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good point. “Thanks for coming, we’d be happy to serve you, but we do not allow recording video in our store.”

That said he is pretty awkward ordering the donuts. He asked for whatever makes sense instead of asking for a recommendation.

My take on JD Vance is that he’s a talented guy who figured out that if he can transform into this right wing guy then he can have a career. Being a conservative catholic is part of that mask. The biggest tell to me is the timing of his conversion and the fact that his wife is Hindu. If he takes his Christianity as seriously as he claims, then his top priority should be to convert his wife, not respect her choice to do her own thing.

[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he takes his Christianity as seriously as he claims, his wife wouldn't have any choice: she would be required to submit to the authority of her husband.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You’re missing my point. I’m talking about his personal relationship with his religion, not how he might impose it on others, including her. I assume he loves her and if he is serious he ought to be terrified about her salvation. But I don’t think that’s the case. I think he is not serious about his religion nor the other strong stances he appears to take. The issue of the salvation of his wife should be his most serious concern and if he can wave that away it just proves that he doesn’t mean anything he says. My biggest problem with Trump is that is a deeply immoral man without values to guide him. Vance was supposed to shore up the support of the right but he’s just as rudderless.

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