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Is there some aspect of this or the math behind it that I do not understand? If it reduces the damage that you take, that is good, right? Or does it only reduce damage to me if I would otherwise get a mortal attack against me?

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[–] Pickyfan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Hopefully I don't get harrased here for giving an opinion

The ring itself is just straight up, honest damage reduction, both physical and magical.

It's also not your only source of damage reduction, so you stack it on top of other forms of damage reduction, there's a lot of them

Evasion, shields, armor, utility, buffs and debuffs, sustain. All those things are enhanced by the ring of tenacity.

It's kind of the same logic for the warrior Hold fast ability (3-6 armor) and the warden's Barkskin ability ( 0-150% of her level, it goes up to 0-45 armor at level 30)

Even if the Warden blocks significantly more damage, the warrior gets more benefit from the extra armor since he has a passive shield to back it up

[–] Vencedor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (13 children)

You didn't even have an opinion on it, you just kindaaaa said what it does

[–] Pickyfan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I think it's the best defensive ring in the game

[–] Vencedor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's literally the only... wait, excluding elements, I almost forgot that clowny clown ring.. only defensive ring without counting clown clowny ring in the game, ofc it's the best defensive ring in the game.

[–] Pickyfan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also including arcana with a good defensive glyph, evasion, and haste

[–] Vencedor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then haste is the most defensive one no contest if you count it.

[–] Pickyfan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like tenacity more, but I understand

[–] Vencedor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it wasn't fundamentally flawed and just putting those upgrades in your armor making the damage reduction not only more effective but also giving you the possibility of having a better ring (literally every other ring) maybe I would like it too.

[–] Pickyfan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The thing is, putting everything on armor doesn't get you magic resistance.

[–] Vencedor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just dodge the attacks. They are more punishing but avoidable. Once you have enough skill, you won't need to resist them, because you'll just not get hit

[–] Pickyfan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay, that's like saying "if you know how to manage food, you should never need the horn of plenty"

Stuff just happens, I like having the ring of tenacity

[–] Vencedor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Horn of Plenty is still good for On Diet...

[–] Pickyfan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it is. Case in point, everything has it's use

[–] Vencedor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, not everything. For example: Ring of Elements, arguably Ring of Tenacity, Ring of Wealth while ascending, Sandals of Nature, Alchemist's toolkit, for some reason the Amulet of Yendor, blocking enchantment (it's a joke, it's trigger chance is really rare and it gives low shield for a small amount of turns. If you upgrade the weapons to make it more effective you won't need the shield, enemies just die) and all the shards (free achievement or gold)

[–] Pickyfan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I could make a case for all of those things, literally none of them are useless. Some other time 🤔

But you should play around more to find uses of items and everything else

Some things have synergies with other things.

Except the amulet of yendor, but that's supposed to be the last item you get

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