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[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm feeling good. Sadly, for both sides. Harris is the better speaker, but MAGA will only listen to Trump's lies

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

MAGA is the island of lost souls. The point of the debate is not to change their minds. It is to make the stark difference between the candidates laughably obvious, so that even the moderate conservatives feel ashamed and stupid that he represents their interests, and the moderate Democrats feel comfortable mocking them for their weirdness.

Nobody felt that way about Clinton. She tried to be the better person without alienating the Trump supporters. She used words like "deplorables" when she should have said "shitbags."

Trump supporters deserve to be alienated, just as all bigots and nazis and narcissists should be. They will not change because of a rational argument. You need to smoke them out of the crowd, and then point and laugh until they shrivel up and every child sees their humiliation, so that no one grows up thinking it's OK to be a bigot, or that there are good people on both sides.

Fascism is a threat of violence, and the best way to defeat it is to render it impotent. You can't kill an idea, but you can make people embarrassed to admit it out loud.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If she fucks up once, we will never hear the end of it. He will be able to say whatever he wants.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We all know the news tomorrow will be about how Trump was confident and Harris made one statement that could be misleading if you squint hard enough. Then there will be a wet noodle fact check that is far less prominent than some article about how MAGA cultists think he won the debate.

[–] CrazyFrog97@discuss.online 8 points 2 months ago

That's because only one side cares about doing the right thing.