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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by MissJinx@lemmy.world to c/3dprinting@lemmy.world
 

Edit: Thanks to everyone for the help! Just an update.

Thanks to @nate3d and @IMALlama comments below I calibrated the e-steps that were very under and it improved a lot.

I left the filament on the dryer for 8 hours and tested again with a 20mm /s speed and 220 C print temp and it was better (picture below)

Just to answer you all saying it's a clog or a hot end problem, it's not, the whole hot end, includong nozzle, heat block and everything else, even the PTFE tube are all brand new and I checked before.

This is still the best I could achieve and It took 3 hours to print this benchy lol

‐-------- Hi everyone, I'm once again asking for your help lol Since I’ve tried to print with wood I totally wrecked my printer so I changed the hot end and am trying to set it all up again. Since my printer already came built and working I don’t have much experience with things like this so if you could help me I would be very thankful

What do I need to twerk to make it print better again?

I’m using Cura slicer and trying to print a benchy with the settings below:

Nozzle: 0.4

Layer: 0.2

Printing temp: 220 (it wont print with lower temp)

Speed: 60

Retraction distance: 7

Retraction speed: 70

Edit: PLA

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[–] atocci@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hey I just saw your update! I'm glad you're getting better results, but like you mentioned, something is definitely still wrong. I'm still pretty convinced your nozzle is clogged, even though it's new, and I'll do my best to explain why!

To start, if your printer wasn't working normally before you printed in wood, I'm totally wrong about everything below and you can stop reading here!

If your printer was working normally before you tried printing in wood though, that means the e-steps were already calibrated correctly, and they wouldn't need to be re-calibrated after replacing the hot end. If you had replaced the extruder and it started acting this way, that would be a good reason to re-calibrate the e-steps, but replacing the hot-end shouldn't have had an impact. After swapping an extruder, you calibrate e-steps to basically teach the printer how to extrude the correct amount of filament in the real world again since the new extruder might have different specs from the original and the printer has no way to know something has changed. A hot-end swap doesn't necessitate recalibrating e-steps though because the extruder is the same and it's still going to be pushing the same amount of filament through the printer.

If your nozzle is clogged and you recalibrate the e-steps, the measurements you take will be off since the printer can't push filament through at the rate it should be able to. Your new benchy looks better than before, but that could be because the higher e-steps you calculated mean the printer is now forcing more filament past the blockage by working the extruder more. It's been calibrated to compensate for the fact it can't push filament through fast enough, but it's working harder to do this and it will severely limit its speed before it starts underextruding again. I'm guessing this is the reason for the 3 hour long benchy at 20mm/s? You shouldn't need to be at 220 C to get PLA to print at 20mm/s from a 0.4mm nozzle either.

Not all nozzles or hotends are well-made or handled with care at the factory. It's totally possible you got one that shipped with some sort of tiny unnoticeable debris inside that worked its way down into the nozzle as the filament pushed it along. I have a cheap bag of 0.4mm nozzles that have metal shavings stuck in some of them and your first benchy is exactly what my prints look like when I use one of them. If possible, I still recommend changing the nozzle before doing anything more expensive like replacing the extruder. You'll probably need to set the e-steps back to what they were before changing them though, otherwise you'll be extruding too much filament if the new nozzle isn't clogged and the old one is.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hey thanks for the tip. Indeed this printer never worked correctly, it always printed PLA with over 220c temp, but since printing wood forced me to change some things that melted I just decided to look more into it. The e-steps were probably wrong since the begining and I never new to calibrate it but now I have to understand why it only prints nice when at 20mm/s. But I'll look at clogs too, something could have been loose there from wood.

Oh one more thing, Temp towers never work in my printer It's like all the stages are the same temp, even checked the code., it never had a good temperature control, but I just changed the heating block so it must be something in the configuration that I don't know.

I printed the speed tower below (from 20mm/s to 100mm/s) and you can see it's only printing nice at 20mm/s