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I was just Googling for some tips on an argumentative child, but if all that's coming up are Christian dogma blogs with this kinda crap...maybe I should just let it be lmao

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[โ€“] lath@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Obedience is the main pillar upon which current society is built. Obedience to your government, to the law, your boss, your elders, your teachers, your parents. Every generation is trained to obey some form of authority. So why shouldn't religion also get a piece of the pie?

Truth is, the deck is stacked against the individual. Whichever rights we have as individuals are those granted to us by a collective. And each different collective wants to impose their own authority over all others. So it isn't weird organized religion asks for obedience, but it would definitely be out of place had it not.

[โ€“] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Our society tries to be contractrarian, which is to say it asserts the rule of law (law applies to everyone equally and is legislated from everyone equally) but even in the short history of democracy-informed states, signs of disparity are evident, from motorists exceeding speed limits to white collar crime getting sentenced lighter punishment than petty crime even though it causes more cost, destruction and loss of life by multiple orders of magnitude.

All states in the world fail to carry out their side of the social contract. Few even try. And all states exhibit social stratification in which the ownership class is protected but not constrained, and the working class is constrained but not protected.

So while states might pretend to ask for consent to govern, they command obedience, by force. At the botton rungs, weare imprisoned or killed if we dont obey perfectly, and sometimes if we do.

So yes, on the chalkboard, but in reality, no.