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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Russia can just retreat hundreds of kilometers further east and carry on.

Into what, a wasteland full of snow and bears? Russia might be massive, but it works like Canada. Everybody is huddled into very specific regions for a reason.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Occupying Moscow is like occupying DC. The politicians will fly to safety and you are left occupying a city of low level administrative personnel and restaurants. Nothing of military value is manufactured in Moscow just like DC.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Except there isn't a California 1000 miles away, there is only Bumfuck Alabama.

[–] lostinfog@reddthat.com 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nothing of military value is manufactured in Moscow just like DC.

Most of their industry is there, because it’s where most of people live.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I'm just repeating what happened or what the plan was the last couple of go arounds, with Napoleon and Hitler.

Napoleon did occupy Moscow, but it didn't help him very much.

Hitler was turned back just short of Moscow, but the Russian government had all sorts of continuity plans that involved moving further east. Entire factories were uprooted and shipped into the Urals.

[–] lostinfog@reddthat.com 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Entire factories were uprooted and shipped into the Urals.

Try doing that now

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Napoleon did occupy Moscow, but it didn’t help him very much.

Because he was trying to wait for the Tsar's peace negotiations. Not because taking Moscow wasn't a major victory. The issue is that Napoleon had no intention of pursuing the war any further, but the Tsar was not willing to give up at the point they were at, because the Tsar realized that Napoleon wanted a quick surrender, not a chase across the Asian steppes.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Soviets would've gotten their ass handed to them without lend lease.