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[–] abfarid@startrek.website 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can somebody explain why this was removed? It didn't break any rules, "Russian cope" isn't prohibited by the rules. Just trying to understand the logic. How does deleting controversial opinions (that aren't hate speech or call for violence) help anyone?

Side note, I just realized that Rule 5. says "no politics". How is this even possible? 80% of content here is politics in some shape or form, just like this post.

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Rule 2 Russian propaganda is factually incorrect. All factually incorrect information that isn't obviously satire should have matching citations explaining why it's incorrect.

Rule 4 Russian propaganda is hatespeech.

Rule 5 No politics.

I don't pretend to be unbiased or neutral. If what you want is a rule that says don't suck Russian cock by propagating the talking points of war criminals, I'll be glad to add it.

How does deleting controversial opinions (that aren't hate speech or call for violence) help anyone?

If you came to a defense shitposting community looking for help you may have come to the wrong place.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Russia is bad and tells only lies, but this is a pretty egregious twisting of Rule 4

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trying to sell the lie that NATO is at war with Russia is literally Russian MOD talking points.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes, agreed. That doesn't make it hate speech. You undermine the concept of hate speech when you abuse it like this.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

Doesn't need to be hate speech for it to be removed.

Russian shills just aren't welcome here. They can fuck off to their motherland until their imperial sock puppet of a dictator stops invading sovereign nations.

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Then we should add a new rule that better encompasses the intent such as "No misinformation".

[–] spookex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's not? I can see it on my phone just fine