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As someone who grew up playing games like World of Warcraft and other AAA titles, I’ve seen how the gaming industry has evolved over the years—and not always for the better. One of the most disturbing trends is the rise of gacha games, which are, at their core, thinly veiled gambling systems targeting younger players. And I think it’s time we have a serious conversation about why this form of gaming needs to be heavily restricted, if not outright regulated.

Gacha systems prey on players by offering a sense of excitement and reward, but at the cost of their mental health and well-being. These games are often marketed as "free to play," making them seem harmless, but in reality, they trap players in cycles of spending and gambling. You don’t just buy a game and enjoy its content—you gamble for the chance to get characters, equipment, and other in-game items. It’s all based on luck, with very low odds of getting what you want, which leads players to keep spending in hopes of hitting that jackpot.

This setup is psychologically damaging, especially for younger players who are still developing their sense of self-control. Gacha games condition them to associate spending money with emotional highs, which is the exact same mechanism that fuels gambling addiction. You might think it's just harmless fun, but it’s incredibly easy to fall into a pattern where you're constantly chasing that next dopamine hit, just like a gambler sitting at a slot machine. Over time, this not only leads to financial strain but also deeply ingrained mental health issues, such as anxiety, depression, and a lack of self-control when it comes to spending money.

Countries like Belgium and the Netherlands have already banned loot boxes and gacha systems, recognizing the dangers they pose, especially to younger players. The fact that these systems are still largely unregulated in many other regions, including the U.S., shows just how out of control things have gotten. The gaming industry has shifted from offering well-rounded experiences to creating systems designed to exploit players’ psychological vulnerabilities.

We need to follow Europe’s lead in placing heavy restrictions on gacha and loot boxes. It’s one thing to pay for a game and know what you're getting; it's another to be lured into a never-ending cycle of gambling for content that should be available as part of the game. Gaming should be about fun, skill, and exploration, not exploiting people’s mental health for profit.

It's time for developers and legislators to take responsibility and start protecting the players, especially the younger ones, from these predatory practices.

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[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I was a young idiot making minimum wage and I spent 500 dollars in a gacha game over a three month period. It's been years and I still wake up at night, remember this and feel the strongest remorse.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I watched a documentary on Darksyde Phil. He managed to spend 44000 on a Wrestling gambling game per month.

I think the bright side is that you learned something even tho it was a 500 dollar lesson.

I used to work with a guy who was super cheap. Like i sometimes payed for his coffee or whatever, because i always did that with friends and co workers, and sometimes they would pay too. He never did that. One day we talked about video games and spending habits. He said he doesn't play video games, but he played clash of clans. I didn't really know what clash of clans is, aside from seeing some screenshots and seeing memes. He said that he spend 500-800 dollars a month on the game. It kinda blew me away, because i knew that whales often spend a bunch of cash on games, i just was a bit shocked about the amount and that it was HIM. He looked at me and said, oh that's nothing, you should see what my girlfriend spends on candy crush.

Yikes. At least he's dating someone with similar interests?

You're right about the lesson learned. A silver lining.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, it really sounds like it turned into an addiction for you. Very happy that you got away from it. Be careful with addictive substances or activities in your life, some people have a predisposition for it.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thank you! I very much have that predisposition. I've noticed that I have addictive behavior towards sugar and caffeine as well (I'm fine as long as I don't have any, but if I have some I'll continue to crave more at shorter and shorter intervals until I go to sleep and it resets), and recently celebrated my third month nicotine free after about four years total smoking and then vaping.

Addictive proclivities are a personal defect normally. But when you exist in a context where there are people whose job it is to get you hooked on things, they become a handicap.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I spent $800 on Fallout: Shelter

Fuck, my condolences.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You escaped addiction (hopefully) without too many long-term consequences, hopefully that remorse will help you avoid similar situations in the future :)

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If it helps me to avoid something even worse later on, maybe it was even worth the 500 bucks! Hopefully I'll never have to find out.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But the industry said you whales were rich gamers that had too much money and didn't know what to do with it! /s

Damn, I've never thought of myself as a whale before but I guess for a while there I was. I wonder how many of the people we see in these games with all the premium characters and skins are like me, struggling. I always thought of them as having more money than sense but maybe they (we) lack both.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't allow myself to play any mobile games anymore. Spent like $300 on one of those idle games. Not worth it. I refuse to play any free to play titles at all, no matter the platform these days.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I once spent $10 on a mobile game. You can get a special item by purchasing gems or by winning coins for which you have to grind for a year. After getting the item, i felt so disgusted that I gave up mobile gaming and shifted to PC.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

This was pretty much my experience. I played some browser game with friends, way before gatcha and mobile games. Gor today's standards, the game was actually pretty good, but i started like a week or two later than my friends so i payed for a booster pack or something that was like 10 dollars and i immediately regretted it so hard. I almost felt sick and like an idiot.

Better to play it safe.