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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

killing for culinary pleasure is extremely fucked up

i’d argue that that’s simplistic

people all have a line; vegans included… we kill yeast to make bread, and people are fine with that. there’s a line between yeast and humans, and we all draw it somewhere… which is to say nothing about the difference between vegetarian and vegan

having a conversation about morals is fine; passing judgement on someone for their alternative views on where the line is is what most people don’t like

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

my mistake, wiping down a surface with 70% ethanol is equivalent to strangling a puppy. Barkon tomorrow morning it is!

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i never said they were equivalent. i said there was a line; to say that they’re equivalent is disingenuous and to say that killing a chicken is the same as killing a human is equally so - not advocating either way, but they are different things

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm gonna eat a dolphin and you can't criticise me <3

[–] Well@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm hungry for an orca!

[–] Well@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Both are sentient beings who feel pain and we must prevent that from occurring.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeast is a single celled fungus and not an animal. The line is at animals.

It is absolutely ok to pass judgement on people for doing something cruel, torturous, environmentally damaging and unnecessary.

I pass judgement on Israel for carrying out a terrorist attack.

Get the out of here with this no one can pass judgement and what about the plants nonsense.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

swatting a mosquito then? the argument remains valid

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really, you aren't systematically torturing mosquitos when swatting them to protect yourself. Vegans are against large scale insect control.

[–] Well@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

You have the right to defend yourself.

I am against that yes, there are more humane ways to protect yourself from insects including mosquito repellant and I think theres like a super high pitched noise they don't like

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If the line is at animals we commit genocide of small multicellular animals in order to get clean water

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

You are being purposefully fucking obtuse and ridiculous to make a shitty point.