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Linus Torvalds Speaks on the the divide between Rust and C Linux developers an the future Linux. Will things like fragmentation among the open source community hurt the Linux Kernel? We'll listen to the Creator of Linux.

For the full key note, checkout: Keynote: Linus Torvalds in Conversation with Dirk Hohndel

The Register's summary: Torvalds weighs in on 'nasty' Rust vs C for Linux debate

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[–] lambda@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Do you have something against it? People hate on it like it's a fad or whatever. But, the people who like it, LOVE it.

Rust is the most admired language, more than 80% of developers that use it want to use it again next year. 

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#overview

Rust is on its seventh year as the most loved language with 87% of developers saying they want to continue using it.

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#overview

8 years in a row. I can understand the perspective of someone who spent years honing their craft in C/C++ and not wanting to learn a new language. But, the Harassment of the "Rust in Linux Lead" is ridiculous. I'm not saying you are harassing. But, saying it's a tech bro thing is just negative and doesn't do justice to how many devs just like rust.

[–] zygo_histo_morpheus@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If anything I think that the current rust discourse is a fad. I'm not sure what it is about rust that makes people have so strong opinions about it but I can't wait for it to become a "normal" language so that people can chill about it a bit.

[–] lambda@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

I agree. People need to chill.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's also possible the number of people who like it do not outnumber the people who don't like it

[–] lambda@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Its also possible that out of the people who hate on it, the people who haven't actually tried it outnumber the ones who have.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

@lambda @x00za Well for what it's worth, there is Redox, a Posix compliant kernel written entirely in Rust. There are some other aspects of Redox I don't like, chiefly it's use of a microkernel, which, while it makes portability better it exacts a performance penalty, and of having all drivers operate in userland, perhaps better from a security standpoint but again exacts a performance penalty.