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Telegram will disclose users' IP adresses and phone numbers to authorities, Durov says (t.me)

submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by JustMarkov@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Search on Telegram is more powerful than in other messaging apps because it allows users to find public channels and bots. Unfortunately, this feature has been abused by people who violated our Terms of Service to sell illegal goods.

To further deter criminals from abusing Telegram Search, we have updated our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, ensuring they are consistent across the world. We’ve made it clear that the IP addresses and phone numbers of those who violate our rules can be disclosed to relevant authorities in response to valid legal requests.

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[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 20 points 5 days ago (69 children)

So what's the replacement?

[–] Drun@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Element 2.0 or Signal is only worth ones, I think.

But to be honest - it's only IP and phone number. If you have concerns about possibility of such request about your persona, you always can buy Telegram's anonymous phone number / fake telephone number / use VPN to login.

[–] troed@fedia.io 11 points 5 days ago

Just clarifying for the ones who don't know: Element is a Matrix client.

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Element I'm not that sure, it's so bloated that I'm surprised it works on mobile phones. Regarding matrix sure

[–] gabbaghoul@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They said element 2.0, which I'd assume means Element X using matrix 2.0. From my testing in the last few weeks, element X has been the fastest messaging app I've ever used. Probably still some bugs but does not feel bloated anymore at all.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Who do you talk to on it?

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

His friends, maybe? lol

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not bloated because it doesn't have almost any features. No spaces, no threads, joining channels doesn't work, wait until becomes as the predecessors. The performance improvement is negligible in my experience. It does simply depend on thr homeserver performance , not much on matrix version

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 4 days ago

I prefer wire.

Unlike matrix, wire encrypts everything. Its not possible to send unencrypted messages on Wire.

Unlike Signal, you don't need a phone or a phone number to use Wire. Create an account with an anonymous email address directly on either the desktop app or the mobile app.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 4 days ago

But to be honest - it's only IP and phone number.

what guarantees they won't hand over chat history? if police requested that, could they say no?

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