Stealing, without the quotation marks. If you copy something and profit off it without crediting, compensating or asking permission to who paid for it, it's stealing. We can't downplay it as "but they just downloaded 700k hours of videos and 200k pirated books for training a simple model that they're charging users $20 a month, what's the issue"

If you copy something for personal enjoyment without profiting from it, then it's not stealing.

[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get your point, it's just hard to give a shit when one amoral megacorp takes some profit away from another. Google owns and profits from YouTube videos and occasionally throws a few pennies to the creators if they haven't broken this week's selection of ever-changing arbitrary rules.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

Probably Google just wants to block them not because they care about the creators but because it's costing them bandwidth money.

From the new agreement that they had with warner bros for creating closed captions, it looks like Google is also stealing the subs for training, they had direct access

It just sucks that someone pays hundreds of dollars to have a human create subs for a show, then that is used without credit or permission for training a model (actually whisper accidentally credits moments of silence with the name of the subbing groups used for training)