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I get that it started for free with less intrusive ads, but YouTube has had a huge impact on the way we all share and consume information. Understanding how much money it takes to run a service with the technology needed to provide high definition videos on a site that is up 99.9999999% of the time, I have no issue paying for a service that has changed my life in many positive ways. Now I do hate price gouging like everyone else, but it's inescapable from gas & groceries to all streaming platforms.

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm the same way. I bought Premium when I started sleeping to Thunderstorm Sounds videos and didn't want ads interrupting my sleep. And I found that it's nice to watch my ASMR videos and videogame reviews without struggling with ad blockers, etc. Overall I don't mind spending a couple bucks a month for it. I get that server costs are expensive and the platform needs a way to make money so it is what it is.

My lemmy instance doesn't support downvotes and I only see upvotes, so feel free to downvote me to oblivion - I'll have no idea.

[–] B312@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why does your instance not support downvotes tho?

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can only imagine that some people are so fragile that they can’t cope with a random internet stranger disagreeing with them. I honestly can’t think of any other reason - but they still allow upvotes. What’s the point? I really can’t understand. If someone can give me another reason, please do. I really really really hope I’m wrong.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s bothered me but I’m glad you asked.

Shining the best light I can:

Every Lemmy comment as a bad take / disagree button, and it's the reply to box. You can express whatever opinion you want and anyone who has a problem with it will have to use at least 3 or so taps or clicks to express their disapproval. So no drive by downvoting from people who don’t actually care that much about your comment but saw other people downvoted it and succumb to the herd mentality.

When you use an instance which doesn't support downvotes, you'll never visit your profile and see that a bunch of strangers didn't like something you freely put out into the world unless they offered some feedback beyond a singular thumbs down - unless they reply with a thumbs down emoji, of course.

I would hope that on a platform where downvotes are disabled, when you go into a spicy thread, if 3 idiots posted comments sympathizing with Nazis or something, they would all be at the bottom regardless with 1 upvote each and lots of sarcastic and angry replies.

I still am not sold. But it’s making more sense than before you asked the question.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks. I kinda half-thought some of that myself but you put it way better. I can’t buy into it though. It just stinks of weakness and fragility to me. I still struggle to understand why being downvoted is seen as bad. Is not having people disagree with you a vital part of your personal development as a human being? If your instance is mollycoddling you then you don’t get to appraise your own views vis-a-vis the internet’s moral majority. Seems an ideal recipe to increase the herd mentality of the instance. I don’t know though…

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I mean, yeah, trans folk being brigaded makes sense - I’m surprised and disappointed that it’s a major deciding factor on an area of the web like Lemmy which is generally (at least) a bit more accepting. If I was trans I’d probably wind my neck in if I were on 9gg, Re**it, 4chn because you’re unlikely to feel better after interacting there - which is a pity. Still think it’s a bit weird having upvotes only though; but I guess there has to be some mechanism to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

I believe the official reason is because it's a trans-focused instance, and trans people are often downvoted by bigots. But to me, the biggest advantage is escaping the peer pressure of upvotes/downvotes.

I found myself easily swayed by karma on Reddit, and it got so bad that I could barely express myself without trying to copy the Reddit "tone of voice" and agree with everything the hivemind went for. Now that I don't see downvotes, it forces people to actually have a discussion in the comments if they want to sway my opinion. It feels much more human and has been great for my mental health.

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

By choice, because fuck toxic culture and herd mentality