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Melania Trump made an extraordinary declaration in an eagerly awaited memoir to be published a month from election day: she is a passionate supporter of a woman’s right to control her own body – including the right to abortion.

“It is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference of having children, based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the government,” the Republican nominee’s wife writes, amid a campaign in which Donald Trump’s threats to women’s reproductive rights have played a central role.

“Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does with her own body? A woman’s fundamental right of individual liberty, to her own life, grants her the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes.

“Restricting a woman’s right to choose whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over her own body. I have carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life.”

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So... they wouldn't? Because they're low-information voters?

I don't understand this scenario where someone is both a low-information voter and aware of what Melania Trump says in her memoir. That makes no sense to me.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe they say to someone more knowledgeable, "well I would vote for trump but he doesn't support abortion rights", and now a devout trump supporter can respond "well that's not really true, his wife is a strong supporter of abortion rights, I'm sure trump is too, it's just that he has to keep the rest of the party happy. You'll see once he's president"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's quite the "maybe" for something that also makes Trump look like even his wife isn't on his side to anyone who is not a low-information voter and possibly plenty who are and hear about it the same way.

So if that's the sort of stupid tactic they're going for, sounds like they're headed for failure. Good.

On the other hand, Occam's Razor would suggest she just isn't on the same page with her husband who she hates.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nonsense. She may hate him bit she sure as shit wants him to be pres. Why do you think she releasedbthis information at this time?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would she want him to be president this time when she didn't want him to be president in 2016?

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you really honestly believe that Melania Trump has written a book, scheduled publishing for after the election, but then released these specific comments, in order to undermine her husband's election chances? That's pretty much a nutty conspiracy IMO.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not a conspiracy. She hates him. That's not a secret.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not disputing that, but hating him, and actively trying to undermine his candidacy with a leak from your memoirs are two very different things. That's a nutty conspiracy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or maybe she just doesn't give a shit what he thinks. Because she hates him.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Repeating the same thing doesn't make it any more likely.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you're saying that, despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary, she doesn't hate him?

And, despite the fact that she "cried in despair" when he won in 2016, she wants him to win in 2024?

None of that is rational. At all.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m not disputing that, but hating him, and actively trying to undermine his candidacy with a leak from your memoirs are two very different things. That’s a nutty conspiracy.

This is what I actually said. I don't really have much more to add.

This is so tedious. Feel free to have the last word and continue believing your nutty theory but I'm done.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Wasn't that in response to what would have been a "nutty conspiracy" about how she did it to help his campaign through some weird hope that low-information voters would somehow decide that means Trump is pro-abortion and change their vote?