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It’s been six years since Steve Rodgers handed over Captain America reigns to Sam Wilson, Aka The Falcon, in “Avengers: Endgame.” Wilson (Anthony Mackie) will be the lead of Julius Onah’s “Captain America: Brave New World.” A trailer was released in the summer.

Two different cuts of the film test screened last week, and plot details for one of the cuts have leaked online. The person who attended didn’t seem to like the movie all that much.

Based on the folks I’ve spoken to, those who attended were either given a red or green bracelet and were split up into two different theaters. The reactions I’ve heard have not been very kind to this movie, which is being described as “inessential” and “flat.”

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Reshoots on ‘Brave New World’ happened in August. This could explain why two different cuts were shown. Last year, after receiving negative test scores in another screening, and Marvel themselves underwhelmed by an early cut they saw of the film, ‘Brave New World’ was delayed to February 2025. Extensive reshoots were called, with “three major action sequences” having been filmed, between May and August 2024 in Atlanta.

‘Brave New World’ had originally wrapped filming in June 2023, and was set for a July 2024 release date, but it’s now turned into this monstrous mess for Marvel. You just don’t push a movie this big out of your calendar, and then decide to dump it in February, unless major trouble is brewing.

Last December, Matthew Orton was hired by Marvel to pen “additional scenes and material”. Orton’s work was shot during this summer’s reshoots. They’ve also added new characters to the story. Will audiences even show up to a Captain America movie that doesn’t star Chris Evans?

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[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Mackie has never struck me as charismatic enough of an actor to lead a franchise as big as Captain America, hes just so boring to watch, its like he isn't even there.

Couple that with what seems to be another bland script from the goofs that brought us Falcon and the Winter Soldier and I am not surprised it sucks.

The problem is always that Disney is trying to cut costs on the directors, writers and actors by picking TV level people. Its pretty obvious this hasn't worked so far and that they have had to press the panic button to get as many of the OGs back as possible.

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I actually liked Falcon/Winter Soldier for the most part. Enjoyed the cast, it explored issues I care about from wealth inequality to racism and immigration.

Wonder how much of it is just bad writing for him? Altered Carbon season 2 was really meh that he led. Then I imagine the original actor in his place and realise I just didn't like the plot that much compared to season 1.

I can't think of anything he's been in though where he's nailed the role outside of Falcon/Winter Soldier, where I'll admit there was lots of supporting roles. Man's either cursed with D-list writers, or, as you mentioned, lacks the charisma to carry it.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is he good in Twisted Metal? That show looks like a lot of fun.

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think he was great in Twisted Metal and the show, as a whole, was a hoot. I'd say I even liked it more than the Fallout show, but honestly I played waaaaay more Twisted Metal than Fallout.

[–] kux@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

just to add, i never even knew twisted metal had a story, watched the series on a whim and found it to be great fun. it's enjoyable even if you know nothing about the game

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

That's great to hear because the little references and cameo's from other characters was the cherry on top of a not very serious show. To enjoy it without the meta is a sign of a good show!

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

He's decent in it, nothing groundbreaking but I wouldn't say he was bad or anything

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is not enough people liked Falcon/Winter Soldier. Its the same thing when people say they liked Marvels or whatever, good for you that you enjoyed it, but nowhere near enough people did for the amount they spent on it and it lost huge sums. Disney simply cannot sustain huge bombs time after time and if they are going to spend this sort of money it has to be a success, which means making stuff that is actually popular.

I like the fact that they went with a black Captain America, the problem is casting. Mackie is clearly well connected as hes hardly lead a massive commercial success in his time, just the opposite. The problem that Marvel has is that they stuffed so many of the bigger name black actors into Black Panther, including a few who would have been a much better choice than Mackie, now they are reluctant to recast them in a different role. Sure they have done this a few times, but very rarely when its to face roles rather than one face role and one CGI or "blue face" role, or one film and one TV series on Netflix.

[–] the_artic_one@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

The Marvels served the role of a TV-Movie for the Ms. Marvel series, they should have had it straight to Disney plus with a modest budget. Several of these smaller marvel movies/shows probably might have been better off with lower budgets. Not everything needs to be a homegoenous tentpole and by trying to force it, Disney is just setting expectations too high and burning money disappointing a large audience when they could have been entertaining a smaller audience.

[–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My first thought was that Mackie's bland acting killed Altered Carbon and now it's killing Captain America. He has absolutely no charisma on his own.

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago

Season one was so good. I couldn’t barely finish season two. The writing and the acting were both just bad.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

another bland script from the goofs that brought us Falcon and the Winter Soldier

Wait, are you telling me they didn't all get fired after that atrocity?

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

No, they got promoted to film directors with a large budget. Hopefully this bombs and they go back to making day time soaps.