New Communities
A place to post new communities all over Lemmy for discovery and promotion.
Rules
The rules for behavior are a straight carry over of Mastodon.World's rules. You can click the link but we've reposted them here in brief, as a guideline. We will continue to use the Mastodon.World rules as the master list. Over all, be nice to each other and remember this isn't a community built around debate. For the rules about formatting your posts, scroll down to number 2.
1. Follow the rules of Mastodon.world, which can be found here.
A. Provide an inclusive and supportive environment. This means if it isn't rulebreaking and we can't be supportive to them then we probably shouldn't engage.
B. No illegal content.
C. Use content warnings where appropriate. This means mark your submissions NSFW if need be.
D. No uncivil behavior. This includes, but is not limited to: Name Calling; Bullying; Trolling; Disruptive Commenting; or Personal Criticisms.
E. No Harrassment. As an example in relation to Transgender people this includes, deadnaming, misgendering, and promotion of conversion therapy. Similarly Misogyny, Misandry, and Racism are also banned here.
2. Include a community title and description in your post title. - A following example of this would be New Communities - A place to post new communities all over Lemmy for discovery and promotion.
3. Follow the formatting. - The formatting as included below is important for people getting universal links across Lemmy as easily as possible.
Formatting
Please include this following format in your post:
[link text](/c/community@instance.com)
This provides a link that should work across instances, but in some cases it won't
You should also include either:
or instance.com/c/community
FAQ:
Q: Why do I get a 404?
A: At least one user in an instance needs to search for a community before it gets fetched. Searching for the community will bring it into the instance and it will fetch a few of the most recent posts without comments. If a user is subscribed to a community, then all of the future posts and interactions are now in-sync.
Q: When I try to create a post, the circle just spins forever. Why is that?
A: This is a current known issue with large communities. Sometimes it does get posted, but just continues spinning, but sometimes it doesn't get posted and continues spinning. If it doesn't actually get posted, the best thing to do is try later. However, only some people seem to be having this problem at the moment.
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So, I don't know what the beef between the !world@lemmy.world mods and you was, but...
That's a lot of activity for a new community. On Lemmy.today, I see 82 upvotes for the first article, which was apparently a week ago...and I assume that this is the first announcement.
https://lemmy.today/post/17163696?scrollToComments=true
lemmy.world shows the same thing for it.
Normally, Lemmy doesn't show users who have upvoted a post. Only admins can see that.
But Kbin and Mbin do, including on federated servers.
So, I can look at the upvotes for that post; mbin shows them on the "favorites" tab.
Fedia.io is an mbin instance.
When I go to the most recent !world@quokk.au post on Fedia.io, however, all of those votes that your community is reporting disappear. It shows virtually no upvote activity.
https://fedia.io/m/world@quokk.au
In fact, no post in that community has more than four upvotes. Most of them, you've upvoted. But I don't see a lot of other users there. One or two.
Now, that might just be some kind of mbin bug. But the posts on !world@lemmy.world look pretty much the same on lemmy.today and fedia.io. It shows real users generating those upvotes.
Now, okay. Maybe it's just me being cynical and skeptical. But this is your home instance, yeah? You wouldn't have anything to do with that instance possibly reporting incorrect vote totals on posts on your new community, right?
And keep in mind, I'm not saying that more competition for communities is a bad thing. More options, let users choose what they want. But I'd also think that having an instance report accurate numbers to help them make that choice is important. And if they aren't accurate, that ain't a great start for the community, in my book.
EDIT: Looking further, it looks like it's just a very high upvote count for a new community relative to age and comments, but I was able to look at the users doing the voting on another instance, and the users doing so don't appear to be bots; that's coupled with some oddity of vote propagation; I detailed this in a follow-up comment. Sorry, Deceptichum! I don't believe that there's any funny business going on.
Hey, thanks for the reply. I don't know how upvotes syncing works, but when I look at the community on here or .world, I see roughly the same number of upvotes?
Edit: When I look on any Lemmy site that's synced with it, I see similar. Is this a kBin issue?
It's my home instance and I am friends with the admin. From what I know they ran an "easy" script to setup the site, I don't think they're knowledgeable enough to do stuff like fake votes from the instance (no offence @Marsupial@quokk.au).
The disparity in vote totals is between mbin and lemmy instances.
Ah so that's an *bin problem yeah? I remember starting off on kBin and it was always acting up with Lemmy.
"This magazine is not receiving updates." might be why it shows wrong?
As pointed out below, votes don't get federated if no fedia.io user is subscribed
An instance needs to have a subscribed user to get the posts and comments, which have shown up. The votes, however, are absent.
That's not quite true. If a community was resolved but no one's currently subscribed to it, for example because someone searched for it or subscribed and then unsubscribed, you'll see exactly the situation that you're looking at. You'll see partial content and almost no votes.
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Fedia.io appears to have a pretty complete history of comments and posts. Lemmyverse.net reports 78 posts, and that's about how many posts picks up. It doesn't see the votes, however.
Granted, I haven't tested the order in which votes are fetched. Maybe comments and posts get priority over votes, and if a user unsubscribes, that terminates fetching votes.
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On lemmyverse.net, the community statistics read:
90 subscribed users. 1.9k active users.
That ratio is pretty dramatically out-of-whack with all other communities on lemmyverse. That's sufficient to place it in the top 100 communities on the Threadiverse by active users, which I believe includes vote activity.
But it has only 90 subscribers, which is way down the list.
The subscriber count I can believe, for a new community. But for the active user count to be that high, there'd need to be a very high proportion of user account activity, with few subscriptions.
EDIT: Additionally, if one sorts by active weekly users, every other community shown on the same visible page in the lemmyverse community list -- the communities with a roughly comparable active user rate -- has between an order of magnitude and two orders of magnitude more comments. So basically, very few of these users could be commenting, but a high proportion would need to be voting.
EDIT2: Okay, moist.catsweat.com is another mbin instance that has indexed the community. Unlike fedia.io, that instance does have votes for the past few posts, and while there are a lot of upvotes relative to comments, one can see the users users doing so, and they appear to be real users, not bots. It's a lot of upvotes for a new community, but that could be just unusual, and I'd believe that the propagation of votes is due to lemmy quirks.
Sorry, @Deceptichum@quokk.au. Just didn't want to have spammers abusing the system. This is probably legit; I'll withdraw my concerns.
Interestingly enough, now that I'm having a look, if you filter the top posts of the community, quite a few posters were created 9 or 8 days ago:
I also couldn't find any announcements anywhere which would draw 2k members in such a short timeframe
I also noticed two new accounts voting on this post:
We don't have the voting data for previous threads