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You just dropped a load of shit without explaining it.
But glancing at it it looks EXACTLY like the point I was making.
Generals and averages I agree immigration can be made to look good. When you go into the details things change. Where does it look at country of origin? Where does it show contributions over life rather than just prime age? Where do you see intergenerational affects? Where does it talk about training instead of filling gaps with foreigners ? Where does it talk about all these effects of different earning percentiles of the population?
When every people go into that level of details things look different.
Plus it doesn't all come down to money
I implore you to read more from the sources than just what I quoted. You're right that it's not all about money, Pro-immigration should come from a morality standpoint, not just economic. People are people, everyone deserves asylum. There is no reason to curb immigration from anywhere.
Why are you trying so hard to single certain people out as 'unworthy' of being allowed in as immigrants? You've provided no evidence that justifies it even from an economic standpoint. I'm sure you're not talking about any European or First World country, but instead some Third World Country. Of which those people aren't deserving of immigration to the US for some arbitrary reason. It's white nativism, which is a form of racism, whether you are aware or not. I'm going to assume you're not aware, which is why I linked the wiki about nativsm so you can see the history of this kind of sentiment and where it comes from.
I'm not going through your data dump. You just gisp galloping
Asylum is abused. We are talking economic immigrants here.
We need a data driven decision. Not listening to you who "know" things based on feels.
See you full of shit because I'm not. The issues with people from Hong Kong, or Japan or the pacific or actual asylum countries crossing their nearest board to get away rather than get to like Ukraine is fine. Even places like Nigeria show much better stats than others. Though total numbers are also important (with the exception of actual issues like Ukraine)
I would love data driven info. That's what the people want. But also things like culture are exceptionally important to people more so than even money and people should get a vote on it rather being told to accept people that hate homosexuals or treat women like second class citizens just so the ruling class can make more money from houses and cheap wages. You come to a country the least you can do is act like a member of that country.
All the sources I provided are data driven with empirical evidence
For the data I asked for or for the misleading data I mentioned?
You don't seem to understand my point even remotely. So the conversation is done.