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LLMs can’t reason — they just crib reasoning-like steps from their training data (pivot-to-ai.com)

submitted 2 months ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Oh man, XML is such a funny hype. What if we took S-expressions and made them less human readable, harder to parse programmatically and with multiple ways to do the same thing! Do I encode something an an element with the key as a tag and the value as the content, or do I make it an attribute of a tag? Just look at the schema, which is yet more XML! Include this magic URL at the top of your document. Want to query something from the document? Here you go! No, that's not a base64-encoded private key nor a transcript of someone's editing session in vim, that's an XPath.

JSON has its issues but at least it's only the worst of some worlds. Want to make JSON unparsable anyway, for a laugh? Try YAML, the serialization format recommended by four out of five Nordic countries!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

No, that’s not a base64-encoded private key nor a transcript of someone’s editing session in vim, that’s an XPath.

lol

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

JSON has its issues but at least it’s only the worst of some worlds. Want to make JSON unparsable anyway, for a laugh? Try YAML, the serialization format recommended by four out of five Nordic countries!

fucking

this take is so dangerously real I’m pretty sure uttering it at work will earn you a PIP and a fistfight in the parking lot with the lead data architect

you know, normal startup shit

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

Try YAML, the serialization format recommended by four out of five Nordic countries

yeah there are so many fucking crazy footguns in yaml

another I quite like:

❯ ipython -c 'import yaml; d = dict(); d["d"] = d; print(yaml.safe_dump(d))'
&id001
d: *id001

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

YAML is great if you need to make simple configuration files

... which is why no one uses it for things like Kubernetes /s

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be "fair" kubernetes api only supports strongly validated/typed YAML-ish input..., it won't let you put non-string values in string locations. And in reality at the HTTP api layer—at least for kubectl—json is used. (Which also means you cant' do the more weird occult YAML things that JSON wouldn't let you)

You have to blame the deep-nestedness of k8s resources for unreadability...

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 2 months ago

You have to blame the deep-nestedness of k8s resources for unreadability

this shit happens because FUCKING GO is a piece of shit (cf that post (from iirc fasterthanlime?) about how the go apis infect everything)

which should not be read as me supporting k8s, fwiw. fuck that noise too.