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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Did you read the article because your response article doesn't really address it, or the moral culpability of it either

Like, is the argument you're making that congress also approves of giving weapons to allow genocide, so it is fine actually?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The argument was that Biden was illegally supplying weapons, which was true when he side-stepped Congress to do it.

Once Congress approved of it, the support became 100% legal.

Legality has nothing to do with morality.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

No, the argument was that he was so enthusiastic about genocide that he was willing to break the law to be a vital part of it.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 weeks ago

Man I wish you were around when Regan was doing this secretly, maybe if more people had their panties in a twist back then, this wouldn't be business as usual today.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Biden is not "enthusiastic about genocide", he believes, rightly, that Israel has the right to defend itself from attacks, which they do. That's the source of Biden's support for Israel.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Israel has the right to defend itself from attacks

Is killing hundreds of thousands of civilians with something like 70 percent women/children casualties defending itself? If genocide is required to defend itself, it should be destroyed.

Also, Palestinians have a right to armed resistance against an occupying force in accordance with international law. Do you support the United Front's right to defend itself against Israel?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No, that's not defense. Defense is shooting down the Iranian missile attacks. Legitimate defense is why Biden approves sending support to Israel.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, that’s not defense. Defense is shooting down the Iranian missile attacks. Legitimate defense is why Biden approves sending support to Israel.

Isn't killing occupying Israeli forces committed to genocide defense?

It isn't just missile interceptors:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68737412.amp

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, it is, and what Israel chooses to do with the support is entirely up to them, but we aren't supplying them so they can continue a genocide, we are supplying them for their own defense.

You can see Biden and Harris speak to this over and over again.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, it is, and what Israel chooses to do with the support is entirely up to them, but we aren’t supplying them so they can continue a genocide, we are supplying them for their own defense.

If they keep using weapons we ship them "for defense" for genocide then we are shipping them weapons for genocide, you can't just feign ignorance when it is so obvious.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

If people wonder how chuds deny the clearly documented Holocaust, just look at this thread.

People denying the US is supplying Israel with weapons clearly being used to deliberately kill massive amounts of civilians. Much of it is literally caught on video and bragged about by numerous Israeli politicians and military figures.