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[–] explodes@lemmy.world 106 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I would say 80% of employees are unhappy, but I don't have any data to back this up.

[–] SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev 47 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Can confirm. Was quite unhappy in my mechanical engineering job, had an opportunity to develop something nice in python, was told we'd do it in excel/vba instead, still unhappy.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

was told we'd do it in excel/vba instead, still unhappy.

I just threw up in my mouth a little. Fifteen years ago, "I'll stick to Excel" was a (bad, but) defensible position in data automation. Today that's just insanity.

[–] SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm still in a mechanical engineering world so just saying INT and FLOAT has people running away. Excel is the "safe zone" for them, sadly it means that I'll just be doing the VBA part and oh gawd please get me out of here...

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah. I get that. Gotta do what you gotta do!

I've made some progress at organizations like that by setting up a private workflow in Python "just to check my work".

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Nice. You can put that on your resume so you can get more of those kinds of jobs.
(/s. I like excel to a point but i really feel your pain too-- and fuck vba)

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

excel has python support now! you may still get away with it

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's cloud based though... Not ideal. I get why they had to do that (they didn't want to expose people to the Python infra shit show) but it's still kind of a shame.

Would be better if they added Typescript support IMO.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

...like the js infra stuff isn't it's own special nightmare?

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's significantly less of a nightmare and Deno is downright pleasant.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Every job lately seems to have been infected by Meta/google "data driven" leadership. Its so painful and wasteful sometimes.

[–] lysdexic@programming.dev 11 points 3 weeks ago

Every job lately seems to have been infected by Meta/google “data driven” leadership. Its so painful and wasteful sometimes.

It's cargo cult mentality. They look at FANGs and see them as success stories, and thus they try to be successful by mimicking visible aspects of FANG's way of doing things, regardless of having the same context or even making sense.

I once interviewed for a big name non-FANG web-scale service provider whose recruiter bragged about their 7-round interview process. When I asked why on earth they need 7 rounds of interviews, the recruiter said they optimized the process down from the 12 rounds of interviews they did in the past, and they do it because that's what FANGs do. Except FANGs do typically 4, with the last being an on-site.

But they did 7, because FANGs. Disregard "why".

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

20 years ago it was the people who worshipped Jack Welch, not realizing (or not caring) that he was running GE into the ground.

[–] corbs132@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

The Behind the Bastards podcast covered Jack Welch, definitely worth a listen.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. I, like most leaders, spent some time learning all that crap. It was awful and worse than useless.

Google and Meta's secrets are recruiting top talent to for top dollars, and then buying every start up that threatens their empire. There's no secrets to great management to be had there.

I just threw out my copy of "product engineering at Google".

[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Or maybe 80% of people are unhappy. No data here either

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

80% seems too high, but the US Surgeon General declared a loneliness epidemic https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/surgeon-general-social-connection-advisory.pdf

And Gallup claims that 29% of Americans have been diagnosed with depression at one point: https://news.gallup.com/poll/505745/depression-rates-reach-new-highs.aspx

So... That is not good. It is almost like humans evolved to live in tight knit, walkable communities.

[–] lysdexic@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

And Gallup claims that 29% of Americans have been diagnosed with depression at one point:

That really doesn't mean anything. The only requirement for succumbing to a depression is being alive, because all it takes is something bad happening in your life (loss lf friend, loved one, even pet, etc) to fall into a pit of despair.

[–] SatouKazuma@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Joke's on Gallup, I'll be dead before I'm formally diagnosed with depression

[–] anonymous@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

80% of beings in the multiverse