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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 161 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

It’s wild how conservatives have been led to believe that people shouldn’t make a livable wage doing whatever job needs to be done.

Then, when people don’t want to work for shit pay, they cry that “nobody wants to work anymore”.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 84 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For me to win, others must lose

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 35 points 2 weeks ago

That's the crux of it. Republicans almost invariably see life as a zero-sum game. It honestly does not occur to them that everyone could be happy and prosperous.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, of course. They agree that someone has to do those jobs, they just don't think they should be able to afford a one bedroom apartment while doing so.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A one-bed apartment! The lap of luxury! Get three roommates and stop being lazy!

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They really just want slaves, but they know that's a line they can't say anymore. In public.

[–] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s wild how conservatives have been led to believe that people shouldn’t make a livable wage doing whatever job needs to be done.

Not just conservatives. My stepdad is far from being one, but he lives in a fantasy reality where "no one in the 80s made a living or supported a family working fast food or running a register." (I paraphrased a tiny bit, but this is a near-direct quote from him.)

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In the 80s we were already on this path to severe underpayment. He was being fucked by the system already, it just wasn't as obviously destructive so he took it with the lube they provided and said thank you. Now they can't admit that's what happened because they would have to admit were/are idiots getting willingly fucked by the business.

[–] MidnightRider@noauthority.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

bankers don't give a shit about red team or blue team, they've just been stealing from everyone. Good luck!

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean they really, very obviously, do go in for conservatives. It’s their whole fucking thing.

[–] MidnightRider@noauthority.social -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seems like you are making his point for him. The people being funded in these articles are all conservatives. Some are Democrat neoliberal conservatives, but they are still business-class conservatives, regardless of party affiliation.

Conservatism is a plague of oppression that benefits the wealthy.

[–] MidnightRider@noauthority.social -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@Burn_The_Right you think those are the only articles with those stories about those banks? search for yourself, or don't, but don't act like I just gave you the contents of the internet.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to attack you at all. My apologies if it came off that way.

I am pushing back on the common idea that the majority of Dem leadership is non-conservative. The establishment Democrats are neoliberal conservatives who align pretty well with Reagan on most topics. We don't have a viable progressive party at the moment, unfortunately, so we're stuck with diet-conservatives in the Dem party and the few progressives within the party.

[–] MidnightRider@noauthority.social -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, I retract my apology. May you find your conclusion swiftly.

[–] MidnightRider@noauthority.social -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Conservatives are a plague long overdue for a cure. I may not be able to meet you on a battlefield, but I will be sure to think of you for a moment while dealing with a local. It's my little gift to you. Don't say I never gave you anything.

[–] MidnightRider@noauthority.social -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right. I'm just a pussy. And a socialist. I would never.

[–] MidnightRider@noauthority.social -3 points 2 weeks ago

@Burn_The_Right I know you will, and I don't care.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

Baby Boomers really struggle to accept their enormous share of how we got to this place.

Invariably it's some Millennial's fault. And by Millennial, I mean anyone who looks under 40.

[–] turtletracks@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"makinh a living" and "surviving" are two different things

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ask him how those Reaganomics are working for him.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

The problem is that those Reaganomics affect younger much worse than older. He probably still did fine and that's why he didn't understand what others are complaining.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

This. My parents and my husband and I went to the Smithsonian archival museum in Washington DC. They had an exhibit about the coal and steel strike from the 1800s-literally present day. My parents were raised in the era of "work hard put your head down". They really needed this to show class inequality of capitalism. I mean you can find that anywhere on the internet but it was cool to be there and talk about it. Fuck Capitalism and the cancer that it has always been. My parents are still voting for Trash but I feel its a step forward.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 points 2 weeks ago

Aha, Snopes rates it as "True", therefore nobody wants to work anymore!

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's the mentality that billionaires use to impose on us. Yes, our life sucks, but it is not bad, because there are people for whom or sucks much more.

I am currently reading book called On Freedom by Prof. Timothy Snyder and is really eye opening, how we are being manipulated to hurt our and our children's future. I think everyone should read it.