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The leak of a pair of highly classified U.S. intelligence documents describing recent satellite images of Israeli military preparations for a potential strike on Iran offers a window into the intense American concerns about Israel’s plans. It also has U.S. officials working to understand the size of the improper disclosure.

The two documents were prepared in recent days by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which is responsible for analyzing images and information collected by American spy satellites. They began circulating on Friday on the Telegram app and were being discussed by largely pro-Iran accounts.

The documents, which offer interpretations of satellite imagery, provide insight into a potential strike by Israel on Iran in the coming days. Such a strike has been anticipated in retaliation for an Iranian assault earlier this month, which was itself a response to an Israeli attack.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

You're still approaching this from a non-materialist perspective; do you think that if Adam Smith wrote Wealth of Nations in ancient Egypt, they'd have stopped making pyramids and started making iphones? Why was this new belief system suitable to Britain at a time when the power of the bourgeoisie was surpassing that of the aristocracy and not ancient Egypt?

If the percentage is high, then you can safely assume that there’s a fundamental flaw in the belief system.

No, because it's not their belief system that's causes zionism, it's zionism being useful to the ruling class that causes that interpretation to be amplified. Zionist jews get articles republished in NYT and spots on cable news. Antizionist jews get silenced (or in Israel and Germany, literally arrested).

[–] mortimer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Without Judaism there would be no Zionism. If I look at the Old Testament and see it as a genocidal and elitist mythology, what chance to believers have when they adopt it as an ideology? I guess it's fortunate that some don't take the Torah literally. I'm only approaching it from a non-materialist perspective because I am a non-materialst.

What Adam Smith has to do with iPhones and Ancient Eygpt is a mystery to me. But we could argue here indefinately and get nowhere. Perhaps Xitter would be a more appropriate place for you to practice your contrarianism?

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Without Judaism there would be no Zionism.

There would be be an equivalent, to quote Joe Biden "If Israel didn't exist, we would have to invent it". Settler colonialism does not require religion to create all the systems we see in Israel, as we saw most of them during the colonization of the rest of Africa, and many when Japan was colonizing SEA.

If I look at the Old Testament and see it as a genocidal and elitist mythology, what chance to believers have when they adopt it as an ideology?

It's not a random chance, it's determined by what they're using it for. When my jewish friend interprets his books, his agenda is justifying why zionism is incompatible with Judaism. Sadly that interpretation isn't useful for America's foreign policy so it's not amplified like Joel Olsteen's interpretation of his books.

Idealism is not a useful way to analyze societal effects of an ideology, they only exist in the context of society.

What Adam Smith has to do with iPhones and Ancient Egypt is a mystery to me

The point is that ideology doesn't determine society. If it did, then all the ancient Egyptians needed was for Adam Smith to invent capitalism, and then they'd all embrace capitalism and start making iPhones, in the same way you suggest that reading the torah turns people into zionists.

But we could argue here indefinitely and get nowhere

Yes, if you keep coming back to claiming religion determines behavior after we've established religion is molded to fit what the ruling class is using it for.

[–] mortimer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. Religious belief has been dominant throughout human history, so has killing each other. It's more to do with human behaviour and religion is simply a reflection of human behaviour. Class systems are also a reflection of human behaviour and religion was/is invented by ruling classes as a form of control. The stories in religious texts are merely a mythology to administer that control.