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[–] sinadia@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m curious, is there ANY evidence of ‘abortion as contraceptive’ happening?

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I suspect it is one of those things that conservatives imagine being all over the place because in their communities where they would be shamed for becoming pregnant while unmarried and where contraceptives are hard to get that is how they imagine they would handle it.

[–] sinadia@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, sort of. In that in states that teach abstinence-only sexual education, there is a higher rate of teen pregnancy. I’m guessing you could extrapolate from that and find that teen abortion rates are higher, but I don’t have that data.

As I like to say to “pro-life” people: “Want to reduce abortion? Make contraception free and teach comprehensive sexual education.”

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the thing though. They aren't pro life. They are anti sex that they don't approve of.

Pregnancy is punishment for you having sex outside of marriage.

Which....tells you exactly what they think of women.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's the thing though. They aren't pro life. They are anti sex that they don't approve of.

Sure, but they don’t think of themselves that way. They see themselves as trying to stop what they see as murder. Yes, they ALSO don’t want people having sex that they don’t approve of, but data clearly shows higher rates of unplanned pregnancy in states that don’t teach people how not to get pregnant. So if they truly see abortion as horrendous, they should be trying to stop unplanned pregnancies before they occur.

Pointing out that dissonance can help them see the flaw in their reasoning, if they’re introspective enough to attempt consistency in their views.

(Source: My own life story, having grown up as the sufficiently introspective “pro-lifer” shown the flaws in my thinking as part of a long journey from a conservative youth to a progressive adult. 😅)