I also applause your willingness to change your mind based on new facts learned and please don't take this as an attack because it isn't, it's just a curiosity of mine. Did body autonomy not factor into your previous stance? I'm sure we both agree woman are perfectly capable of making their own decisions with their own body, why does anyone need to be involved in what they choose to do.

Tangentially related but I saw a state in the US basically made it so rapists could choose the mother of their children by both having abortion be illegal and making it so rapists could share parental rights with their victim. Essentially forcing the mother to be involved with their abuser. Shits crazy yo.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Regarding bodily autonomy, my previous stance were something like this: Abortion is a major decision and women should be counselled to make sure they know what they go into, and maybe try and convince them to keep it.

And that stance is probably fine if we lived in a perfect world where a few women got pregnant by accident, and it were the only reason for abortion.

But live in a world with: rapists, incest, teen pregnancy, ectopic pregnancy, failing contraceptics, and many other reasons for abortion.

So I can only agree that the only way forward is full bodily autonomy.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

That's a fair enough stance even if I don't fully agree with it. I definitely agree with the counseling so people can make the decision that's best for them but I don't believe anyone should try and convince them one way or the other.

Thanks for giving me some of your time bud. Hope you have a good rest of your week.