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[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, it's actually an excellent sample size. This study is absolutely worrying because it was conducted well.

https://www.checkmarket.com/sample-size-calculator/

This is a sample size calculator,

Punching in 350M for population size, 2% margin of error, and 95% Confidence interval we get a necessary sample size of at least 2401, this study had a sample size of 5352

As for their margin of error, using the above population and confidence interval values but adding in 5352 for the actual sample size we get a calculated margin of error of 1.34%

This study is valid and its findings should worry everyone.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's a perfectly good sample size, you're absolutely right, but @anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net raises good questions about whether it's an appropriately random sample.

Edit: They use weighting to put things closer to what the general population actually looks like, but here's what their unweighted numbers are:

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Okay I see the criticism, but would the more honest title:

approximately 47% of Americans aged 30 and older believe immigrants should be put in militarized camps

really have changed the conclusions and implications?

It's fucking disgusting no matter how you look at it.

I suppose that number might go down to 30% at best if 18-29 year olds were properly sampled.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree. Like, we could get the number down by asking the question a different way, too, but ultimately the issue is that ~97% of votes will go to candidates who will increase the power, reach, and budget of ICE and the military.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

The millennial demographic is the most disappointing thing about this. How is that this group ISN'T the one that believes overwhelmingly in non negotiable human rights for immigrants?

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The main conclusion I got from the survey is that the majority of crackers want to shove their POC neighbors into concentration camps.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 4 points 20 hours ago

Yeah I knew that already

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's also in how the question is phrased and so on. They're basically goading people into agreeing with right-wing stuff in these polls.

Here's the actual question and results:

Q30e. Rounding up and deporting immigrants who are in the country illegally, even if it takes setting up encampments guarded by the U.S. military

Strongly favor 22%

Favor 25%

Oppose 28%

Strongly oppose 22%

Skipped/ Refused 3%

and the next question "Which statement comes closest to your view about how the immigration system should deal with immigrants who are currently living in the U.S. illegally? [ROTATE]" shows that over 60% of people say citizenship (56%) or permanent residency (11%)

which also seems to entirely contradict the previous one lol.