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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by jack@monero.town to c/anarchism@lemmy.ml
 

Hey, there is now an Anarchism public group on Nostr. Nostr is a very simple protocol which aims to become the ultimate decentralized social network, already fulfilling functionality of Twitter, Reddit (not very advanced tho), Twitch, Telegram and more. It is also uncensorable.

It is also more anarchist than the fediverse because your identity there is not bound to a server/domain which can be shut down or moderated at any time.

To join the group, you have to search for this ID: nevent1qqs05w7vklg8ewh4g7u8rafp3dsvtcw3j7v9j4v7n4k5fxxewaggjdspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuerpw3sju6rpw4esz9rhwden5te0dehhxarj9ehhsarj9ejx2assy2425

On Android the app Amethyst is very good. With Nostr, the client handles everything. The servers are just dumb relays which don't need to be trusted. That's why there are a lot of different clients. Each one is implementing different aspects of the protocol and they are always evolving.

If you want to have a peek at the group you can also check here: https://coracle.social/chat/note1lgaued7s0ja023acw86jrzmqchsar9uct92ea8tdgjvdja6s3ymqa579ar

EDIT: There are a LOT of Nostr resources available and you can decide how deep you want to dive into it. A very basic and easy introduction is https://usenostr.org/ . The devs website nostr.com also does a good job of getting the point across. There is an awesome list which can point you to any Nostr related resources like which clients to use and also what other introductory guides are availabe: https://github.com/aljazceru/awesome-nostr

Popular clients including web, desktop and mobile are also described here: https://nostr.com/clients

Note that Nostr is very decentralized and that some clients implement features which other clients don’t (yet).

This video can also show you visually how the relationship between clients and relays works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIccRIEr2gQ

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[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think Nostr is not that well known, so if yuu have any ressources that explain how it works, that might be really helpful. Probably coolest would information from an anarchist perspective.

It is also more anarchist than the fediverse because your identity there is not bound to a server/domain which can be shut down or moderated at any time.

I feel like arguing if something is more or less anarchist is not that helpful when you try to promote something.

I probably wont join Nostr anytime soon but I wish you and anyone who does a good experience with lots of great connections.

[–] skele_tron@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nostr is also deeply linked with blockchain and crypto, and i do not think any sane anarchist should use something thats making a permanent record of everything written - so once posteed there is no edit / delete ( as far as i got it ) nor anyone else can remove what you posted. You also need to have some crypto wallet to use it - so i just stopped at that step.

[–] jack@monero.town -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don't need to have a crypto wallet to use the great majority of Nostr. It is not deeply linked with blockchain at all, although crypto is an option clients MAY implement, specifically, paying someone bitcoin. There is no Nostr blockchain. You should read into how Nostr actually works and what it is before you judge a book by its cover. I will update the post with more information. Of course you don't have to use Nostr, but why speak badly about it when you don't even understand it?

[–] skele_tron@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do understand it, hence the remark about no deletion / everything being permanent to be "censorship resistant". Its filled to the brim with crypto bros and chinese porn bots.

I mean, yes, the idea is there, but till now the whole thing is seriously floating towards being just another ponzi scheme

[–] jack@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hey, thanks for the feedback, I will update the post with more information. I gave basic information and hoped it would make people interested enough to search for more resources themselves, but I guess that's not how humans work.

I feel like arguing if something is more or less anarchist is not that helpful when you try to promote something.

Why would it be counter-productive to promise people a better way to achieve digital anarchism? I would be very interested if someone told me there was (or may be) a better way to do something. Never stop learning in life, always confront the new and unknown..

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would it be counter-productive to promise people a better way to achieve digital anarchism?

It seems there is some doubt over how closely you agree with others regarding the method and meaning of such a comparison, or what even is meant by anarchism.

[–] jack@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Regardless of if you agree with my view on anarchism or not, why not just check something new out? Worst case, you don't like it. But I really don't understand the cynicism on this post regarding a new, different approach

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You asked a question, to which I provided an answer. Hopefully you understand it.

[–] jack@monero.town 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh, my question was more rhetorical, saying that knowing of something is better than not knowing about it. But yea, might be that multiple people here have a different philosophy than me.

[–] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Since you are using the term "anarchism" to describe principles that are rejected by the tradition from which the term arose, roughly one century and a half before its being appropriated by the movement with which you associate it, I would agree that others having a different philosophy than you is an accurate minimal characterization.