Democrats aren't attacking Jill Stein because they think she is taking votes from Kamala Harris. No one I know who's voting Green would consider a vote for Harris at this point. They're attacking Jill Stein because they don't want voters to know that there can be a worker-centered party to the left of the Democrats that supports popular policies like Medicare for All, a $25 wage and federally guaranteed housing.
There are 80+ million eligible voters who don't vote at all because they don't see the point. Democrats are okay with this, in fact, they don't want any candidate to their left to appeal to those voters with popular policies.
The fact that the Green Party exists shows that the Democrats aren't pushing the most progressive policies. Jill Stein's candidacy shows that it's possible to support reproductive justice AND be against funding and arming a genocide. That we can end homelessness if we stopped funding endless wars around the globe.
Democrats don't want anyone to the left of them to exist because it's the only way they can convince Americans that Dem policies are "the best that we can do". To Dems, anything else is just "asking for a pony".
Don't fall for it. Despite Dem's desire to have you think otherwise, things don't have to be this way.
Another world is possible.
Because Trump is firmly aligned with Netanyahu and opposed to the existence of Palestine.
And Biden and Harris aren't? Harris even parrots the lies about mass rape by Hamas and that Israel is defending itself.
No. Not like Trump. Not by a long shot.
Trump openly told Netanyahu to eradicate the Palestinians. Trump has empowered Israel over and over again. if anyone gained anything during Trump's presidency it was Israel.
Exclusive: US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
Pay attention to the news, please. Biden sent Israel thousands of 2000-pound bombs, he is helping Israel eradicate Palestinians.
Try reading more than a headline.
Ok, sure. Here's the second paragraph:
Question for you, who has been the president of the US since October 7, 2023?
Joe Biden. The guy that's been preventing this from becoming World War Three.
Nobody has done more than Joe Biden in getting the world closer to WW3.
How does enabling genocide prevent world war, exactly? Spell that one out for me, because to my knowledge the previous World War was started by a state who was doing a genocide.
I'm not here to hold a college course on the fifty plus year history of the US supporting Israel and preventing global terrorism. I don't have the time to pull up the library's worth of data that existed prior to October 7th.
I ask that you pretend October 7th didn't exist and then start researching what all presidents since Carter have done for Israel and especially Donald Trump. And why.
You can be opposed to Israel's excessive use of force while still supporting the Biden administration's actions. I'm not happy about all of Biden's actions. I believe he should be standing more firm about his support but I'm not in the room during these negotiations. I don't have access to classified CIA documents. What we do know is that Iran is an active threat to the United States and other countries and, without Israel as an ally, the world would be under grave threat of international war.
I'm well aware of the history of Israel, thanks. Can you explain how the US's arming Israel for the last 76 years makes it okay for them to continue doing so? It was wrong then, so why isn't it wrong now?
No you cannot, because Biden (and the United States broadly, as you've been so keen to point out) is the one enabling their excessive use of force.
One country in the region is openly murdering women and children, and it isn't Iran.
You are complicit in genocide.
You're a miserable chauvinist and your college course would be crap. Israel is a rogue terrorist state that exists for the purpose of terrorizing its neighbors and therefore hindering development and destabilizing the Middle East
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZs-v0PR44
Israel is a settler-colonial state, all of its forces is excessive and it as a state should not exist. Anyone supporting Biden's actions is supporting settler-colonialism and terrorism.
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US and Israel are the ones funding terrorism globally. ISIS-K in Russia, White Helmets in Syria, ETIM in China (not anymore they lost), ISIS in African countries that "we" don't like (Niger, Burkina Faso, and others), and unfortunately there's a lot more examples
That's better than what Trump has done and will do. It sucks but it's the best option for the people in the area.
No it isn't. You can't explain our situation to us, you have zero clue.
I have a pretty good clue of the reporting that's been done by The Times of Israel sucking Trump's dick. https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/100-times-president-trump-supported-israel/
LLM bot??
This is the real problem that libs have with trump. He represents and fulfills all of their ideals, but without the pompadour.
So is Harris.
That is a lie. The United States supports Israel because of its position in the region. To defend democracy and economies in the region, the US has to negotiate with the Israel terrorist state. Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone in the region and has fully supported Netanyahu's genocide. The current conflict is largely due to Trump's actions as president and Biden's inaction as president.
And by negotiate you mean unconditionally arm their genocide?
Again, the weapons Israel is using for their genocide were sent to them by Biden, not Trump. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-sent-israel-thousands-2000-pound-bombs-since-oct-7-2024-06-28/
Once again, Biden is actively arming this genocide. That doesn't sound like inaction to me.
This all checks out, because we all know that famous Bush quote, "We absolutely totally negotiate with terrorists"
Okay, and? Israel has been a genocidal colonizer state since its inception. Every previous president who armed them is a war criminal, too.
It really isn't. Israel is a genocidal settler state living on stolen land. They should be abolished and the land returned to Palestine, its rightful owners. What part of this are you struggling with?
Oh fuck off. You said yourself they only care about Israel because of its position in the region. They don't give a shit about terrorism, they've been actively funding terrorists and destabilizing the region for decades. It's never been about democracy or fighting terror and you are incredibly naive if you still believe this. It's only ever been about extracting as much oil from the region as possible as cheaply as possible.
Excuse me? I'm not choosing shit. Please link to me exactly where I said I was going to vote for Trump. I have never once expressed any interest in voting for him, not in 2016, nor 2020, nor today. No, refusing to vote for Harris is not, in fact, a vote for Trump. That's not how voting works and you are a literal baby if you think not voting for a specific candidate is inherently a vote for another.
They have never been serious about a ceasefire. Biden is still sending Israel all the weapons they need to carry out their extermination campaign. If he was even the smallest bit serious about enforcing a ceasefire he would stop sending them weapons to fire.
I very much agree with this.
Iran.
No you don't, because you're still up and down this thread bootlicking for Biden and Harris, who are as vocally pro-Israel as anyone can possibly be.
Is Iran compelling Israel to commit genocide against Palestine? Are they compelling the US to arm this genocide? What the fuck does this even mean?
A third party vote is the same as not voting. Not voting in a presidential election means you don't care who wins. I'll give you that. However, you seem to be someone who does care about the outcome of the election and is in support of minimizing conflict in the Middle East. If that's the case, Trump has informed us that he intends to destroy the region by permitting Netanyahu to eliminate the Palestinians. So, by not voting, you are choosing to not let your voice be heard in the matter.
By not voting for the viable candidate that most aligns with your philosophies, you are increasing the risk of the other candidate's victory.
Oh my god just shut the fuck up already.
Harris has promised the exact same thing by promising unwavering support to Israel, just in politer terms that are more palatable to scratched liberals like you.
The Democrats are not entitled to my vote, nor were they ever entitled to it just because they're Not Trump. Fuck you, genocide enabler.
Oh well if they're trying real hard to get a ceasefire I guess they're just weak and incompetent. In which case why would I support them.
Tell me more about how elections work you seem to really understand democracy
The US is overthrowing democracies in the middle east. wtf are you talking about