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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by jack@monero.town to c/anarchism@slrpnk.net

Hey, there is now an Anarchism public group on Nostr. Nostr is a very simple protocol which aims to become the ultimate decentralized social network, already fulfilling functionality of Twitter, Reddit (not very advanced tho), Twitch, Telegram and more. It is also uncensorable.

It is also more anarchist than the fediverse because your identity there is not bound to a server/domain which can be shut down or moderated at any time.

To join the group, you have to search for this ID: nevent1qqs05w7vklg8ewh4g7u8rafp3dsvtcw3j7v9j4v7n4k5fxxewaggjdspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuerpw3sju6rpw4esz9rhwden5te0dehhxarj9ehhsarj9ejx2assy2425

On Android the app Amethyst is very good. With Nostr, the client handles everything. The servers are just dumb relays which don’t need to be trusted. That’s why there are a lot of different clients. Each one is implementing different aspects of the protocol and they are always evolving.

If you want to have a peek at the group you can also check here: https://coracle.social/chat/note1lgaued7s0ja023acw86jrzmqchsar9uct92ea8tdgjvdja6s3ymqa579ar

There are a LOT of Nostr resources available and you can decide how deep you want to dive into it. A very basic and easy introduction is https://usenostr.org/ . The devs website nostr.com also does a good job of getting the point across. There is an awesome list which can point you to any Nostr related resources like which clients to use and also what other introductory guides are availabe: https://github.com/aljazceru/awesome-nostr

Popular clients including web, desktop and mobile are also described here: https://nostr.com/clients

Note that Nostr is very decentralized and that some clients implement features which other clients don't (yet).

This video can also show you visually how the relationship between clients and relays/servers works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIccRIEr2gQ

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[-] jack@monero.town 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The "censorship resistance" is most decisive for the Twitter-like aspects of Nostr, no one can be cancelled. Reddit-style communities are heavily moderated right now for example (every post must be approved by mod before it goes public).

To understand of what nature this censorship-resistance is: Clients/People post their content on as many servers (relays) as they wish, so even if some relays block my content, people who want to see it can still get the content from other other relays if they want to. You can also host your own relays to guarantee that your content is never lost.

For group chats for example you can report messages or block the user. If your client is smartly implemented it can decide not to show you messages that were reported by 3 (e.g.) users already. The client handles everything and I am sure smart algorithms for moderation will evolve over time.

On the fediverse, however, when you are registered on lemmy.world and the admins decide to defederate with an instance, you can no longer access the content from the instance with your account. You would have to make a new account. Also, if the server shuts down for some reason (as happened with some lemmy servers before), all the content of your account is lost. That would not happen on Nostr.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I guess that's cool, but to be honest I think Nostr missed the boat. Most people unsatisfied with Reddit have already moved to Lemmy or other places on the Fediverse, since the infrastructure there was good enough for people to feel that switching would be worth it.

I'm assuming the Nostr protocol itself is ready, but the apps around it are seemingly still in an alpha state, and certainly don't have enough polish to draw in anyone but the most early of adopters who are dissatisfied with the current Reddit alternatives.

Personally, my experience with Lemmy has been excellent, and the potential downsides that Nostr attempts to rectify are unlikely to happen to me with my instance.

Also, Lemmy has just about reached a self-sustaining critical mass, and gets the job done well enough that I think Nostr will have a pretty hard time gaining significant adoption now that everything has settled.

But that's just my 2 cents.

[-] jack@monero.town 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, I see your point. My goal with this post was not to start a lemmy exodus to Nostr. Nostr is not ready to replace Reddit/Lemmy. Just letting you guys know there's an anarchist group you can join if you want :)

this post was submitted on 23 Aug 2023
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