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Author is a Ukrainian PhD. Far more education than me yet still canβt understand why Ukraine is not in the EU, 30 years after leaving the soviet union.
Now wants the EU to escalate a war, adding her voice to growing calls for escalation from people who will not be doing any of the fighting.
Have you heard of the promises that were made when Ukraine gave up their nukes in 1991? No you probably haven't, the USA, GB and Russia promised to protect Ukraine...
And you know what, even without that, Europe should, you know, fight fascism at its doorstep.
No! Ukraine had nukes until 1994 and when Ukraine gave them up in the Budapest Memorandum not a single one of the countries agreed to protect Ukraine. Unless by protection you mean calling the UN security council, which both the US and UK did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum#The_Budapest_Memoranda
EDIT: Also the EU is not the US, UK or Russia.
Have you read the article you linked? The memorandum contains several obligations, including respecting Ukraine's borders.
The article does not talk about the Budapest Memorandum at all. So have you read the article?
Oh no 2 years off.
As I said:
Also nobody agreed to protect Ukraine for giving up nukes. This is the text:
This is irrelevant. We have to do it anyway, no matter whatever they agreed upon 30 years ago.
I see the argument with the Budapest Memorandum everywhere and it is just not true. If it were true, all parties would have broken it, when Russia took Crimea. That would make all the actual security guarantees, which have been given to Ukraine for the time after the war worthless, while questioning NATO and the EU as alliances, with two of the most powerful members not actually delivering the protection they promised. So I find it very relevant to point this out.