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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I had to do a double check on my history. What I said is correct but not "technically correct."

The CUP which primarily consisted of The Young Turks was the organisation spearheading the Armenian genocide. They were also the organisation responsible for the Turkish revolution.

The genocide did technically happen under the Ottoman empire, but it was led by the CUP group who overthrew the empire.

Their primary group The Young Turks then conflated into the party of Ataturk which was responsible for secular Turkey.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

was the organisation spearheading the Armenian genocide.

Turks like that narrative, but the Armenian genocide honestly incorporates Hamidian massacres and many other massacres before.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is undeniable the Ottoman empire was complicit and participated in the Armenian genocide. However this was never standard practice before the end of the empire. And it was led by groups which took over the empire.

This does not absolve the Ottoman empire of blame for it. They still did do dun it. But there is a clear direct correlation between the rise of the CUP from within its ranks and its sudden urge for race driven genocides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Ottoman_genocides

The late Ottoman genocides is a historiographical theory which sees the concurrent Armenian, Greek, and Assyrian genocides[1][2][3] that occurred during the 1910s–1920s as parts of a single event rather than separate events, which were initiated by the Young Turks

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

There is a correlation, but massacres of civilian population were nothing unusual for the Ottoman Empire of any time.