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We’re about to enter another Reddit mass migration phase starting tonight. We’ve already attracted the users most actively engaged with the protests and Reddit’s changes—users who are driven enough to put in the effort to grow the Fediverse.

Now we need to make it feel like home to casual users and lurkers. Not just attract them for a few visits, but keep it interesting enough that they stay here in the coming weeks/months.

Major kudos to all the developers working day and night to bring us familiar-feeling apps and interfaces on insanely short timelines. But what can the rest of us do to make Kbin and Lemmy feel like home to all the new Reddit refugees? Populate Lemmy and Kbin with as much quality content as you can find!

Over the next few weeks, fill your magazines/communities with as much good the content as you can. Post comments and subscribe to things. Click that upvote button on content or comments you like.

Not sure where to find good content? Ironically, check out your favorite subreddits for ideas. Make sure we have the best of the content you can find on Reddit. See a good article or link? Post it here! Don’t be shy about posting to interactive communities like Ask Lemmy- we’re after volume.

For OC Reddit posts, see if there’s a non-Reddit page to post here. I don’t know whether it’s acceptable to copy text posts, but if you do, make sure you at least give credit/copy a link to the original post.

Basically, do everything you can to engage over the next few weeks and avoid lurking. Show off the Fediverse and welcome the next group of Reddit refugees to their new home.

Edit: I completely forgot to call out all the people hosting and upgrading instances to help with the massive influx of users and keep the sites stable. Thank you, hosts!

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[–] sizz@aussie.zone 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also don't join ban happy instances like beehaw.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Beehaw is great, actually. Some things should not be tolerated.

I'm tired of basically every other place on the internet tolerating shitty people because of "freedom of speech" or whatever, poisoning the discussion and making it suck to actually participate.

It's good to have a place where people actually operate on good faith, and not just to fight like everywhere else because they appeal to the lowest common denominator. Just look at how often reddit was criticized for being toxic. If you just allow everything, that is what will inevitably happen. You have to work to prevent that.

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah miss me with the self-righteous, hateful toxicity of pre-2012 Reddit. I left because Reddit made the user experience horrible by shutting down better apps while their own was still abysmal. Idk anything about how ban-happy specific communities are here, but I understand if heavier moderating is needed at the beginning to prevent this place from turning into Voat

[–] sizz@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I said in another post. Reddit active monthly is 1.6 billion . Beehaw have trouble dealing with few thousand users from 2 biggest instances, lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. Lemmy instances needs money, we can get more money by getting more users, which means more money going towards Lemmy and the fediverse. We need to start taking money out of the trillion dollar tech giants and the profits going towards instance owners, mods and devs that make Lemmy great. If beehaw is trying to make a instance to feel safe towards advertisers and give beehaw money, I understand that. However we haven't reach that critical mass yet.

[–] knowncarbage@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Beehaw's fine, no need to promote one side of Lemmy whilst laying into another.

I appreciate the need for variety but personally value safe spaces for discussion over anons right to troll with porn.

The code base needs work to allow safe spaces to exist and integrate with anons trolling now that there are a few million accounts.

It seems much more likely beehaw defeded due to the accounts here lolzing about posting homophobic content everywhere, as the instance owner is apparently gay, & posting knobs all over the feminist spaces. I suspect your take that beehaw action's are to generate income is complete fiction, it's to limit the ability of fuckwits on the server as the current mod tools are shite.

[–] Wilshire@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

¿Por qué no los dos? That's the freedom of the fediverse, freedom of association.

[–] fieldhockey44@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there a way to merge accounts so you can see everything in one place without switching? If not, managing multiple accounts is cumbersome.

[–] Wilshire@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy servers are federated with each other, so users can participate in another server's communities without having to create an account.* ActivityPub is the protocol that allows users to interact with compatible platforms including Kbin, Mastodon, and PeerTube.

Paraphrased from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy_(software)

*Servers may defederate/block other servers from participating in their communities for reasons including spam, bot activity, trolling, ideology, etc.

[–] Matthew@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

You can view and comment in other instances (notice that my account is from programming.dev).

If you're on desktop, you can see the equivalent of /r/all by viewing "all" on your instance. To view a community on another instance, you use the url: {domain of your instance}/c/{community name}@{domain of the instance of that community}

For example, I'm here and commenting with the url: programming.dev/c/main@sh.itjust.works

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apps!

So far liftoff has dealt with this very scenario quite seemlessly.

[–] fieldhockey44@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice! Hopefully soon one of them can merge my Lemmy, Kbin and Mastodon accounts into a single app. Kbin just needs to release some APIs.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yes some day I want kbin too but at least they're federated. I should note for barbies that multiple accounts is only necessary for such cases as beehaw not connecting with two of the other biggest communities.

[–] sizz@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I know, but in my view if I want the fediverse to become mainstream, we need a way for 1.660 billion monthly active users to feel free and jump straight into the fediverse. Admins will need to find a way to monetize their instance, like ads or fediverse awards. So the instance owner can be not only cover server costs, it's will be their job, get devs on board for FOSS development, grow the community and make the fediverse 1000% better. We need to start small first, that means we need play nicely to each other— so users that come on this board can consume content from other instances about the confusion of defederation.

[–] crowlemo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They already did. Every user wants their specific admin led circlejerk with no disent. Else you're a nazi. You don't like it? Make your own instance.

Lemmy is not it, as it stands. Not whil users di y have cross instance user control and don't depend on admins which are a worse version of power hungry Reddit mods with a more fanatical crowd.

[–] Kush@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cross-instance control of your identity would be nice but it's easy enough to just make multiple accounts and manage them easily in your browser and every app under the sun. We are much less beholden to power tripping arseholes here than on a platform like Reddit.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

And account migration could be added in the future

[–] crowlemo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No it's not. And for every account you don't have a shared history. You don't build a community.

Also, which are those apps you talk about? Because Jerboa doesn't seem to be great for that. Switching between accounts is needed and quite annoying.

We are much less beholden to power tripping arseholes here than on a platform like Reddit

No. You're way more beholden. The adminmod rules it all. What you see, who they federate, etc and it's all defended by rabid users because "if you don't like it leave and build your own instance*". It's not about community but instance owner absolute power.

Doesn't quite work unless you're absolutely in line with whichever narrative is happening. The echo chambers are bigger and the consequential toxicity upon dissent, much bigger.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

You can make your own instance if you can't find out that aligns with your values.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait what’s happening with Beehaw?

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Goodbye Reddit drama, hello Lemmy drama