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Discussion: People who use Kagi search don't understand how does Kagi work. (github.com)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Dot@feddit.org to c/technology@lemmy.world

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I want to start by inviting everyone who are looking into this post to check the git commit linked before reading and after that read their current page, it will make more sense.

I think most people don't understand the fact that Kagi is meta-search engine which literally collect the results of other search engines and display it and add very small amount of results from their index(tecilis).

They are starting to act shady this year(check the attached git commit to see their changes to their documentation page).

People basically pay them to search Yandex and Brave for them.

Before anyone say but privacy, they are closed source and there is a better open source meta search engines which actually respect your privacy and need your donations more than Kagi shareholders.

Open source alternative:

SearXNG.

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[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, yeah. It's pretty much the same as SearXNG. Except paid, closed source and needs an account to function. The results are better though, I'll give you that.

...and the pricing is absurd. I'd like to disable all the AI bullshit and get a discount.

If it was self hostable, I'd always recommend it over SearXNG. Let's say that it's a better but closed source and paid SearXNG alternative.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

needs an account to function

How would they be able to provide a way for you to filter and/or downrank certain (known "less helpful") domains without you having an account?

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can store them in the browser locally.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So you'd need to set up your whole block list on every single device you use?

[–] GeekySalsa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

For a privacy focused search engine. At least the option would be nice. I personally just use my PC and phone, so I'd only need to set it up twice. Additionally, I imagine an export/import function wouldn't be too hard to set up.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

SearXNG generates a URL that contains all the preferences you've set, so it's a matter of copying it and setting it as a default search engine on another device.

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Convenience or privacy? Choose.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why not both?

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Sure.

Self host your own database and synchronize it that way.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Sync it with firefox?

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

If they have a great meta-search algorithm, users would be able to search without an account and see how great the results are. Then, when a user wants to personalize ranking and block sites, they can create an account.

I always assumed that they make you create an account to track search usage and cut you off once you hit the free tier limit.