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[–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 35 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Before I finished reading I was gonna say that while I love Bernie, him talking shit now seemed pretty "hindsight 20/20" considering he endorsed her.

But the "serious convo" and "stay tuned" is interesting. I hope he overthrows DNC or starts his own shit with AOC.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dude, most of us kept our mouth shut as to not dissuade people from voting. Obviously it wasn't enough. But now we can gripe and cope freely.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Exactly, dividing the left-wing even more would only lead to failure. The best action was to unify to squeak by, but it didn't work this time obviously.

I've been catching a lot of flack lately from other leftists because I've been preaching the lesser evil for 4 months. That's profoundly stupid, but I get it. Maybe I should've shilled even harder, anyway here we are.

At least it'll be nice to stop justifying evil just because it's lesser.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bernie's 2020 campaign national press secretary:

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. There it is. I hope he’s able to speak his mind finally. We need him.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I appreciate BJG giving him a little shit because it was honestly irritating seeing him bow down to the DNC, at the same time, I think he truly thought he could push them left and that Trump is an existential threat to democracy.

Now he's seen over and over that the DNC has no intention of actually changing and was just paying lip service to the left, I hope he has big plans.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's not going to run in 2028. AOC is going to run in 2028. And she'll lose just like Kamala did, because she's been bowing to the donors as well.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I never said he would, and I agree that AOC has conformed to the DNC way more then she should have, but it goes back to the same basic fear tactic the DNC has been using to keep them in line, hopefully it's now clear (as it seems to be with Bernies post) that they're full of shit

Edit: My hope is a real grassroots movement to incite change and promote progressive ideals without the DNC influence, our revolution was kinda like that but it fizzled out under the weight of the DNC and Bernie wasn't front and center leading it. Just imo

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

DSA doesn't seem to be picking up steam anymore either. I believe it got infiltrated by wreckers who created divisions within the movement.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same thing with what got the squad in initially, Justice Democrats

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And even among the actual left, there are Trots vs MLs etc. It fucking sucks.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Talking like communist trotskh vs Marxist-leninist?

[–] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

He endorsed her because it's at least better than Trump. Best of a no win situation

You play offense when it's right to play offense and play defense when you need to play defense. I respect Bernie for knowing he can't change the system so he will do his part in influencing it.

[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Everyone fell in line, because the DNC had us all by the balls. I'm tired of it. Now is the time to speak out, not 3.5 years from now.