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[–] m_f@midwest.social 63 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Local opinion piece:

https://www.startribune.com/brehm-democrats-have-themselves-to-blame-for-trumps-election/601176736

I read it because of the title, but it's just some shithead that wants them to move further right:

This red wave wasn’t as much about embracing Donald Trump as it was repudiating far-left progressivism.

[...], and then foisted upon us an equally unqualified and unpalatable hard left alternative.

They are already creating the groundwork for sucking more corporate dick.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 50 points 1 week ago (8 children)

How can this be a rejection of the far left when Harris campaigned as a moderate (e.g. Cheney)? If republican voters are going to think Democrats are communist regardless of how moderate the Democrats are, maybe moderating isn't a good strategy. If the only choice is between right-wing and lite right-wing, right-wing voters will choose the real thing. Even then, Trumpists will still call democrats communists.

Many left polices are popular when they aren't labelled as left

@theonion

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thats the fun part, people consider dems "far left" because...... Reasons, I guess? This country is so far right just the idea of building more housing counts as communist.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True. Even in California, the affordable housing measure and rent control measures both failed.

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[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

No it's not, it's a great policy, it just needs to be supplemented by incentives to build or direct government building programs.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Nawwe, fuck off with that. There's no reason to believe that graph represents anything except what was in the mind of the person who made it.

This is what gets me. Like it's been proven to be a bad policy. So when people say it's bad do people equate that with "leftist ideas are bad"? Like if leftists want support you should lead with ideas that aren't bad according to actual data. There are plenty of ways to increase housing and do a ton of other stuff that has data backing it as being an effective use of funds.

Same with affordable housing. We had a ballot measure to basically make a big pot of money and "support affordable housing." How? It certainly makes zero sense to build new housing out of that pot (ie. it's expensive as fuck.) Do you just subsidize? What are the criteria? And what are you doing to affect the root issue that is lack of actual supply of housing? Are you cutting red tape? Are you removing minimum parking requirements? Are you developing transit and relaxing building codes (ie. higher is good) at certain lengths from transit stops?

I've long seen way too many leftist ideas that are more good feeling than good thought. Which is admirable to some extent but it also shows why they fail. Especially when you take into account that it would help the extremely marginalized but you're also now asking the already poor "middle class" to foot yet more bills for something that they won't directly see any benefit from.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Depends on how it's done.

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