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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I'm surprised at how many Gen z kids are trump fanatics, I didn't expect the level of support from that base. So I don't know how much age is in play here now.

[–] qwertilliopasd@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Future prospects for those kids aren't great and there are right-wing grifters targeting the disenfranchised youth. Fascism is a tempting ideology for those who are scared about the future and feel they deserve better opportunities in life. Also being an edgy teen is a right of passage. I've also seen that many many gen z kids care about Palestine, and Kamala told them to fuck off so they did. The ones that see a genocide and don't care tend to lean right.

If the democrats could show a plan to fight climate change, reduce wealth inequality, and stop arming genocide, youth support would slam left like a screen door in the wind. With a broad brush, the older members of the caucus don't see that or don't care.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Young men in particular are annoyed with all the "wokeness" and to be honest, so am I. Not because I disagree with what's being said but because Democrats let Republicans control the narrative every time they engage in it. Republicans bitch about trans people in boxing matches and instead of redirecting to an actually important topic like healthcare or income inequality they just start debating about testosterone levels and in so doing legitimize the complaint.

I've got nothing against trans boxers but let's have some perspective. I doubt anyone reading this even knows a trans boxer. Stop getting lost in the weeds and focus on the stuff that matters to everyone. That trans boxer is having trouble affording their healthcare too. Let's deal with that first. I bet you'll find people willing to listen if you'll talk about stuff that actually makes a difference in their lives.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

There weren't trans boxers in the 2024 Women's Olympics, but many far-right commenters accused two boxers of being trans.

It shows us it's not really about trans people at all, but anyone for whom they can gin up contempt for, among their followers.

Wokeness is about people understanding power structures like these. If you're not woke, you don't get how systemic stratification assures that those born in privilege stay in privilege, and those who aren't are thwarted by more than luck.

Wokeness also includes understanding that in hyperconformist societies such as the US under the MAGA culture war, out-groups expand while mainstream in-groups contract.

It means unless you are a billionaire or providing irreplaceable service for one, you're going to end up amobg the out-groups. And once the purge effort gets underway, it can be very dangerous for you and for anyone who knows you.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

My nephew who is 21 explained horseshoe theory to me a few months ago. He wouldn't listen to why it was bullshit. He has grown up in a right wing government and he likes the "center". I doubt he voted but if he did it would be for Trump.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Youth will help two was, less time for total corruption and new ideas. I'm tired of status quo.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Can you repeat that in English?