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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I'm starting to think moderates really do have that goldfish memory...

America has been a lot worse off than it's about to be.

We had actual slavery, we genocided the native inhabitants, women were property, we even burned some as witches for telling us what we didn't want to hear.

Emmit Till was brutally murdered as a child because a white girl wanted some attention.

We interned the wives and children of Japanese American while their husbands and fathers were drafted into our military.

Is shit gonna be horrible?

Absolutely.

But it probably won't be worse than America has ever been. And to stop fighting now makes zero sense.

Learn a lesson from progressives, it's been almost 20 years since we've been happy about a presidential election. That's never made us stop voting, it's never stopped us from working on the next election, and it sure as shit hasn't stopped any of us from complaining.

But maybe next time you can remember that the politically disengaged won't be motivated to vote by a candidate who chases Republican votes.

For longer than I've been alive the most popular excuse for not voting has been:

Both parties are the same

So when Dems act like Republicans, it just normalizes them and makes more people feel ok voting R, and depresses D turnout.

Please don't forget, or check out for four years.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Learn a lesson from progressives, it's been almost 20 years since we've been happy about a presidential election. That's never made us stop voting, it's never stopped us from working on the next election, and it sure as shit hasn't stopped any of us from complaining.

At this point I hardly know what title to apply to who any longer, but for a large part those claiming the title of progressives where the loudest bunch clamoring to vote third party or stay home.

I consider myself lower-midfle class, not poor, certainly not rich. I vote to support school levies and public good works. I say tax the hell out of the ultra rich. Take a major chunk of our military budget and put it to Medicare and free college. All the same kinds of things these progressives ask for.

Yet when I say Kamela is the best realistic choice out there in this election it gets people all worked up saying I'm not better than some red hat looking to do evil in the world.

Why? This country is simply not going to turn into something resembling a Scandinavian semi-socialist country in one fell swoop.

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