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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The job site decided to recommend me an article calling for the removal of most human oversight from military AI on grounds of inefficiency, which is a pressing issue since apparently we're already living in the Culture.

The Strategic Liability of Human Oversight in AI-Driven Military Operations

Conclusion

As AI technology advances, human oversight in military operations, though rooted in ethics and legality, may emerge as a strategic liability in future AI-dominated warfare.

~~Oh unknowable genie of the sketchily curated datasets~~ Claude, come up with an optimal ratio of civilian to enemy combatant deaths that will allow us to bomb that building with the giant red cross that you labeled an enemy stronghold.

[–] mii@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So, ethics and legality are strategic liabilities? Jesus fucking Christ, that’s not even sneer-worthy. This guy is completely fucking insane.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you've convinced yourself that you'll mostly be fighting the AIs of a rival always-chaotic-evil alien species or their outgroup equivalent, you probably think they are.

Otherwise I hope shooting first and asking questions later will probably continue to be frowned upon in polite society even if it's automated agents doing the shooting.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is straight up Hague material right there, all he wants is plausible deniability

Computer said so 🥺

e: that's a shit take for several reasons and we have autonomous killers already. it's called air defense (in some modes) because how many civilians are going at mach fuck with RCS of 0.1m^2, that's no civilian that's ballistic missile. also lmao at speed of decision

perun video on this topic https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tou8ahLZvP4

Honestly the most surprising and interesting part of that episode of Power(projection)Points with Perun was the idea of simple land mines as autonomous lethal systems.

Once again, the concept isn't as new as they want you to think, moral and regulatory frameworks already exist, and the biggest contribution of the AI component is doing more complicated things than existing mechanisms but doing them badly.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago

~~As AI technology advances, human oversight in military operations, though rooted in~~ ethics and legality, may emerge as a strategic liability ~~in future AI-dominated warfare~~.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

This is awful for sure, but thankfully low impact. Turns out that this Terminator Enjoyer is an unemployed idea guy. Maybe he's wrangling for an IDF contract?

From jobbie site:

"An accomplished manager, with expertise in developing innovative concepts and ideas into client services operations and streamlining delivery of products/services within Defence / Cyber Security and Information Technology industry."

and

Technology and Innovation executive , Currently on short sabbatical May 2024 - Present 7 months

Also, the image is perfect. I especially like the Joe Kucan-looking general embedded in the star trek tactical station. The Technology of Peace ain't what it used to be, is it?

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago

human oversigh :(

and daiquiri nominations :)

[–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

Eliminating Mothman is our prime strattgic priority

Private Bbailcy! I see you back there! Cut it out with the oversighing, you're dragging down morale KPIs for this quarter!

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, I the image is perfect. I especially like the Joe Kucan-looking general embedded in the star trek tactical station. The Technology of Peace ain’t what it used to be, is it?

Is that a screenshot from Command&Conquer 4?

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

what if C&4, but in the metaverse?