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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 213 points 2 days ago (22 children)

Let's see here, RFK wants to ban vaccines and promote raw milk.
There is currently a bird flu epidemic in dairy cattle from bird droppings getting into the feed.
Consuming raw milk is one of the few ways humans can become infected with bird flu.
I'm sure this will be fine and the virus won't mutate to allow for human to human transfer, it if it does luckily it only has a 56% mortality rate compared to the Covid morality rate of ~4% during its peak.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (6 children)

In the US, right now, the dairy farms where they let the cats drink raw milk saw half their cats die.

This is an actual thing.

Edit based on comments below: The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.

However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

You're sort of right ( based on the article I think you read about) The cats drank bird flu contaminated raw milk which led to them dying. For that reason, raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk would~~n't be as dangerous.~~ have reduced the chances of the bird flu, and other illnesses, from people that drink it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/

*Edited

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am more than a little confused.

According to your article

By March 20, over half of the farm's 24 or so cats died from the flu.

That is pretty much exactly what I said

I learned about this at a CBRNE conference from people familiar with the situation.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sure I'll clarify. The implication from your statement is that raw milk can kill half of cats very frequently, which is seemingly untrue. What seems to be the situation is that raw milk from cows infected with the bird flu can lead to a 50% fatality rate for cats that drink it. So if cats consume raw milk, will there be a near 50% fatality rate? Not necessarily, but it seems like that would be the case if the cows in question are infected with the bird flu (based on articles).

The reason why I want to differentiate between what you said, and the article is I can imagine someone saying: "nearly half of cats die drinking raw milk!" to which a skeptic may find online people talking about cats not dying at such a high rate from drinking raw milk, leaving out the fact that the bird flu infected cows is the issue. This can dissuade skeptics from believing the reality that raw milk increases the chances of illness from the bird flu, as well as other sicknesses.

If I'm wrong about the fact that nearly 50% of cats are dying, all the time, from raw milk, feel free to provide an article so i can educate myself.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Thanks. The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.

However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that's exactly what you said. He also said raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk is safer for humans (??). I think he's drunk or just very dumb. Either way, just ignore him.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

You're right my original statement could have been worded better. I've edited it, and responded to the other user with some clarifications. https://sh.itjust.works/post/28117434/15082665

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