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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, the "lesser evil" won many times and still went far right.

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

winning isn't just winning an election, also, do you think the dems would have gotten more right wing, if the polls said something like 60% for them?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Dems won many elections and still moved right. And yes, the Dems would get more right wing if they could get away with it.

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think they moved right, because they couldn't compete against trump, obama for example was a pretty good start if you ask me

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

They competed against Trump in 2020 and ran a more progressive campaign, and won. They competed against Trump in 2024 and ran a genocidal campaign that paraded around warmongers like Liz Cheney, and lost even the popular vote.

Obama is the premier example of a warmongering neoliberal that could perfectly orate for progressive voters despite his actual policy, both domestic and foreign.