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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Didn't really think there was that many of them on here. I feel like every time I see memes like this on here it's just people preaching to the choir.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (22 children)

Focusing on these people was an unhealthy obsession, and most of the attempts to reach them were needlessly adversarial to the point of being toxic and hardening their resolve to not vote for Harris. Gaza was a losing issue for Harris and this attention just kept it front and center. Sad to see the obsession continue.

Anyways, this is not why Harris lost. It was a landslide and Trump won the popular vote by a huge margin. Americans don't vote in large numbers on foreign policy - not unless Americans are getting killed. Kamala lost because she kept telling struggling families that the economy is great.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree with your assessment but appreciate your civility, as well as the fact that you acknowledge how obsessed people are with blaming undecided voters.

The stats I've seen show that Gaza was actually a significant issue in some swing states and absolutely could have improved Harris' chance at victory.

not unless Americans are getting killed

Many Americans have family members who are being killed in Gaza. Not to mention the risk of American troops being deployed increases as Israel becomes more and more belligerent.

Many Americans are also horrified at the fact that their tax dollars are being used to commit a genocide.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

I try to follow a "generous tit for tat" strategy on tone, unless I'm arguing with the libertarian-right in which case going full asshole from the start just saves time.

I know that American opinions on Palestine are deeply against the genocide, but that's a different conversation than what drives actual votes.

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