Tinidril

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 10 hours ago

Nominate an opposing candidate that speaks directly to the underlying issues that made scapegoating minorities attractive. (See AOC / Trump split ticket voters.)

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 11 hours ago

The election is over. Our new President is the Fault of Biden, Harris, and worthless Democratic consultants. Pretending otherwise isn't going to give us a second shot.

We can't nominate better voters in 4 years, so we better start thinking of nominating better candidates.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Let's blame the people who forced her on us after voters totally rejected her in the 2020 primary. Some of us pushed for Biden to drop out far sooner and got shouted down. Some of us called for an open convention after he dropped out and got shouted down. Some of sounded the alarm about the Harris campaign running a Republican light strategy and got shouted down. How much failure does it take for establishment fools to shut the fuck up?

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

At this point, why should I care? It's not like it's entirely inaccurate, and I have no particular affection for racist Joe.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 22 hours ago

I try to follow a "generous tit for tat" strategy on tone, unless I'm arguing with the libertarian-right in which case going full asshole from the start just saves time.

I know that American opinions on Palestine are deeply against the genocide, but that's a different conversation than what drives actual votes.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

I can respect that. It definitely sends the right message.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

If at least 1% over the electorate is swing voters, then that definitionally makes up the critical 1% Trump margin. That's just what swing voters are.

The actual margin is more like 4-5% when you consider the extra votes Democrats need to win the electoral college.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm in Illinois as well. I've personally come to the conclusion that voting third party isn't a great option. The only third party that ostensibly aligns with me is the Green party, but their strategies make it clear to me that they actually exist to spoil elections, not advance issues. Our votes are technically irrelevant, but I'd rather not help legitimize the Green party.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Interesting that you seem to assume that Harris would have done better with the people who didn't vote than with the people who did.

A Democrats losing the popular vote to a Republican by 1% is a huge margin. What matters isn't the entire population, it's the swing voters.

Democrats straddle the desires of their wealthy patrons and the desires of voters. They always try to give the people just enough to scrape by. The result is that we consistently have elections with tight margins. Democrats are playing a game of high stakes chicken every election.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Is that what you think Bernie does?

People are scared and angry already. Not everyone has the financial stability you apparently do. Republicans focus that fear on the powerless. Democrats pretend it's not there. You can't respond to struggling families with "the economy is great!"

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (22 children)

Focusing on these people was an unhealthy obsession, and most of the attempts to reach them were needlessly adversarial to the point of being toxic and hardening their resolve to not vote for Harris. Gaza was a losing issue for Harris and this attention just kept it front and center. Sad to see the obsession continue.

Anyways, this is not why Harris lost. It was a landslide and Trump won the popular vote by a huge margin. Americans don't vote in large numbers on foreign policy - not unless Americans are getting killed. Kamala lost because she kept telling struggling families that the economy is great.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago

Respect the norms!

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