"Ask how Russia should deal with a foreign power covertly manipulating their neighbor’s politics to elevate Nazis who would go on to bomb Russian speakers." LOL Now you are into delusional crackpot territory.

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 8 points 7 hours ago

Wrt doing “nothing”:

https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-russia-may-have-make-ukraine-deal-one-day-partners-cheated-past-2022-12-09/

June 2022 WSJ/National Opinion Research Center poll showed 55% of Ukrainians believed NATO (and 58% wrt the US, 70% wrt the Ukrainian govt.) bears some/a great deal of responsibility for the Russian invasion and ongoing war.

(and below)

Wrt “covertly manipulating their neighbor’s politics to elevate Nazis”:

https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/analysis-u-s-cozies-kiev-government-including-far-right-n66061

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17nC9epcFDOYcVDIcJyWx0udBGPOJiNanuAUu8jxUvmU/edit

And wrt “bomb[ing] Russian speakers”:

https://youtu.be/1fsMqYqHnN0

https://web.archive.org/web/20230320234408/https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/1497097389521342464

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Are you a troll, or do you simply not know anything?

George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine

The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism

Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago

errmm, actually, history started in February 2022 ☝️🤓

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Putin is a fascist. That is a fact. (so is Trump for that matter) Fascists should be opposed, this is also a fact.

My question is why do you uncritically support fascists?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Putin is a fascist.

[Citation needed]

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He's an absolute dictator who has his (serious) opponents murdered. Seems clear to me.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

Right, he’s a dictator who was elected by popular vote, because he’s very popular. Russians have good reason to like him: he kicked the Western capitalist neoliberal shock therapy plunderers out of the country (which is also why the West reviles him). It’s still a capitalist shithole, but at least it’s their shithole and not a neocolonized state anymore.