I don’t know how the world should deal with Biden, truly. Russia is not the power that is issuing threats. NATO did exactly what they recognized for decades would push Russia to invade. Ask how Russia should deal with a foreign power covertly manipulating their neighbor’s politics to elevate Nazis who would go on to bomb Russian speakers.

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

"NATO did exactly what they recognized for decades would push Russia to invade." Which is nothing.

"Ask how Russia should deal with a foreign power covertly manipulating their neighbor’s politics to elevate Nazis who would go on to bomb Russian speakers." LOL Now you are into delusional crackpot territory.

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 8 points 9 hours ago

Wrt doing “nothing”:

https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-russia-may-have-make-ukraine-deal-one-day-partners-cheated-past-2022-12-09/

June 2022 WSJ/National Opinion Research Center poll showed 55% of Ukrainians believed NATO (and 58% wrt the US, 70% wrt the Ukrainian govt.) bears some/a great deal of responsibility for the Russian invasion and ongoing war.

(and below)

Wrt “covertly manipulating their neighbor’s politics to elevate Nazis”:

https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/analysis-u-s-cozies-kiev-government-including-far-right-n66061

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17nC9epcFDOYcVDIcJyWx0udBGPOJiNanuAUu8jxUvmU/edit

And wrt “bomb[ing] Russian speakers”:

https://youtu.be/1fsMqYqHnN0

https://web.archive.org/web/20230320234408/https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/1497097389521342464

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Are you a troll, or do you simply not know anything?

George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine

The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism

Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

errmm, actually, history started in February 2022 ☝️🤓

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Putin is a fascist. That is a fact. (so is Trump for that matter) Fascists should be opposed, this is also a fact.

My question is why do you uncritically support fascists?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Putin is a fascist.

[Citation needed]

[–] trebor_project@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He's an absolute dictator who has his (serious) opponents murdered. Seems clear to me.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago

Right, he’s a dictator who was elected by popular vote, because he’s very popular. Russians have good reason to like him: he kicked the Western capitalist neoliberal shock therapy plunderers out of the country (which is also why the West reviles him). It’s still a capitalist shithole, but at least it’s their shithole and not a neocolonized state anymore.