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I just got this popup while playing New vegas. I don't even use chrome, i've switched to firefox. How can this be allowed? Also, this is Win10

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

MS literally got in trouble for bundling IE with the OS 20 years ago... This is so much worse.

If you cannot understand why people are rightfully upset... LEARN YOUR FUCKING HISTORY.

[–] sfgifz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those days are long gone. Else we'd see Apple and Google getting in trouble for bundling their own apps for everything on their devices.

[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

People can be pissed that multiple different companies are doing things wrong at the same time. The problem is our government has lost its teeth for regulating large businesses

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things were a little bit different in the late 90s though. Windows had a 97% market share and a massive deal with pretty much every computer maker to only put Windows on their pre-built machines. They had a true monopoly in a way that doesn’t exist today.

They also made IE free and bundled with the OS when every other browser at the time you had to buy. On top of that, they made it so that windows would slow down and malfunction if you uninstalled IE, and made installing any other browser a complicated process.

Today you can freely and easily install pretty much any browser you want. Chrome has the hugely dominant share in the the desktop browser market now, despite Edge being bundled with Windows.

On top of that, Microsoft doesn’t have the massive stranglehold on OS market share that they used to. In the desktop space, MacOS is about 1 in 6 computers with Windows holding 71%, mostly in the enterprise sector.

And this doesn’t even factor in that the majority of web traffic is mobile now, where Windows doesn’t even have a presence anymore.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically every point you're trying to make about how MS was in the 90's is truer today except for market share.

Why is market share such a critical point when we're suffering from WORSE problems?

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Market share matters because Windows was a functional monopoly back then.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Market share matters a whole lot less than people pretend... Yes, "monopoly" requires it, but in reality, in the real world where real things happen, you do NOT NEED a literal monopoly to start suffering from the same problems!

Jeeze, it's like you people want to no-true-scotsman yourselves in to a future where corporations literally own you and your time...

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They had to separate it you numpty. They literally DID get in trouble because it was illegal. How are you seriously missing this detail?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been a Linux warrior since '98. I've hated MS for decades now.

But not everything they do is illegal.

You're talking about the past. Notice you're not explaining how this thing in the present is illegal.

Having some something illegal doesn't mean everything you do is illegal afterwards.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Way to completely and utterly miss the entire point of ethics. Does it HAVE to be illegal for it to be bad when it is WORSE than what they've already gotten in trouble for in the past? Why must I have to point at a law in order to say it shouldn't be?

If you even begin to hate MS, why are you defending them with piss-poor logic?