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[–] josefo@leminal.space 31 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

My bet is, if Putin dares to drop a single nuke, he will get assassinated. Lot of secret service agents, and other enthusiasts are straight up going to try that. During war that's allowed right?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Mutually assured destruction is still a thing. We may not be at Cold War levels of insanity, where between the US and Russia there were enough nukes to glass the planet like 150 times over, but plenty of nations have arsenals (especially in Europe), and the best way to make enemies of the entirety of the world would be to be the first one to launch a nuke. Dropping a nuke would signal to every leader in the world that no country is safe from becoming an irradiated wasteland.

I think if Putin dropped a nuke, his allies would drop him faster than it would take NATO to declare all out war with Russia.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I read this book and it changed my opinion a little. Every scenario ends in a nuclear apocalypse, no matter who started with how much.
There might be a hero or two refusing to launch down the command line. But should we rely on that?

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You say that, and yet Exxon-Mobil have proven that actively trying to destroy the world does nothing to turn world leaders away from trying to buddy up with you.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 3 points 38 minutes ago

When you exon does it, it's slowly and for money. So there are "winners". Nukes have no winners.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

My point was, the assassination goal would be him not being able to drop a second one. Also slay the first 100 people in the chain of command and leave them headless.

Cool thing is that nuclear winter will fight global warming

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

nuclear winter is not a thing

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Patroling the Mojave almost makes me wish it was though

Unfortunately, nobody would be able to take him out that quickly. Russia still has plenty of nukes, and they could fire them all before anybody has time to react. If that nuke is an ICBM, though, as soon as it leaves the silo the world would know, and the counter barrage of nukes would be firing up before it even lands.

I originally meant that dropping a nuke would have the entire world declare war on Russia, even his former allies because no one wants to rule over a pile of radioactive rocks, but thinking about it, his allies would probably be the ones most likely to try to have him assassinated in that situation. A maniac with a big stick is only useful so long as you don't have to worry about him smacking you with it, too.

[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 18 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I think if you're assassinating a public figure you're a little past caring about what's "allowed"

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'll pitch in bail money either way.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Me too, just tell me where to send the Doge

[–] josefo@leminal.space 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I was taking about like, it's considered a war crime? Skipping the soldiers dying and straight up killing the dude.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well once the nuke is dropped, anything related to Geneva Conventions or any other Conventions go out the window.