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    [–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    I can agree that installing Arch is easier than installing a debloated Windows. But Gentoo? I spent 2 weeks trying to install it, but couldn't get past partitioning the drive.

    [–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    ...paritioning the drives is exactly the same for Arch as it is Gentoo lol if you did it for Arch, why can't you do it for Gentoo?

    [–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I meant, I partitioned the drives, but could not complete the steps after that. I couldn't use that tar file to compile the kernel.

    [–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Well, configuring the kernel is where things get tricky and is the major difference between the Gentoo and Arch installation, so that makes sense.

    To be annoyingly pendantic, you did get past partitioning the drivea, then!

    [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I’m genuinely curious as an Arch user. Does gentoo not come with fdisk?

    [–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    As a Gentoo user who has used Arch in the past, I have no clue what problems this commenter could have run into because paritioning the drives is exactly the same for both distributions... if they were able to figure it out for Arch, then they can do it for Gentoo

    [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

    Or you know, gparted, arch bootable, Windows Drive Management, Ubuntu…

    I mean out of all the things I’d THINK you’d have trouble in, partitioning and formatting is…. not one of them.

    [–] brap@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Yes it does. And while time-consuming it's actually not too bad if you just follow the guide and don't just skim through it.

    [–] Peasley@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    There are certain parts of the guide where i really wish it went into more detail.

    Last time i installed Gentoo i had the Arch wiki open alongside the guide to help translate

    [–] brap@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah to be fair it does make some assumptions about you knowing how to do something or know what you want.

    [–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

    The arch wiki is a good substitute, but the gentoo wiki when it was still around and at its peak was amazing.

    But I agree... Gentoo is not quite keeping up with a lot of details. Like experimenting with refind, dracut, efistubs, I felt I was in the dark a lot of the time. I ended up making very few mistakes, because the distro is very good at working for special cases even if all the details are not explained. Still my favourite distro.

    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
    [–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Ma-ma-manual?

    I thought there were only automatics nowadays!

    No wonder Linux is so hard

    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I mean, that you couldn't get past drive partitioning doesn't make it difficult to install for everyone.

    [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    But it does make it more difficult relative to the others, which is all that any unitless chart is ever saying.

    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Lol what? As the other comment says, partitioning disks for Gentoo is exactly the same thing as partitioning disks for Arch. If the problem is a PEBKAC thing you can't just blame the distro.

    The alleged "difficulty" of installing Gentoo is just about reading docs and waiting for it to compile stuff, it's no rocket science as you people are trying to FUD.

    [–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

    Reread what I said.

    A>B is a relative statement that gives no information on the absolute values of either. If I say that Miami's elevation is greater than New Orleans', that doesn't mean that I'm saying Miami's equal to the top of Mount Everest.